United Kingdom Politics

[Socthesecond]

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/ar ... u=52138940

Any election is to some extent, a snapshot in time.
But it does appear t that Reform, the Greens and others are on the rise and Labour and the Tories are in decline.

Starmer is a godawful Prime Minister. Having promised so much and having shafted so many to get the gig. I'd imagine its easy to cosy up to the Labour right wing and ensure the staus quo.

Badendoch is either angry or delusional.


Even the Irish Times sat up a bit:

Keir Starmer’s Labour suffers seismic byelection defeat to Plaid Cymru in Wales

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/202 ... -in-wales/


Depending on who you believe Reform are 10 to 12 percentage points ahead of Labour .
Marina Hyde of the Guardian says

"For my money, a third way is currently most likely. Namely, that Reform will win, and that beyond a few golden blazers at the top, the Kent councillors – think of them as the loony lightweight tendency – are broadly representative of the team that will run Britain. But enough people will have had enough – have already had enough – that they just won’t care about that bit enough not to vote them in."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... cil-voters

Hard Times at the Mill me boys, Hard Times.

[Brabantje]

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/ar ... u=52138940

Any election is to some extent, a snapshot in time.
But it does appear t that Reform, the Greens and others are on the rise and Labour and the Tories are in decline.

Starmer is a godawful Prime Minister. Having promised so much and having shafted so many to get the gig. I'd imagine its easy to cosy up to the Labour right wing and ensure the staus quo.

Badendoch is either angry or delusional.


Even the Irish Times sat up a bit:

Keir Starmer’s Labour suffers seismic byelection defeat to Plaid Cymru in Wales

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/202 ... -in-wales/


Depending on who you believe Reform are 10 to 12 percentage points ahead of Labour .
Marina Hyde of the Guardian says

"For my money, a third way is currently most likely. Namely, that Reform will win, and that beyond a few golden blazers at the top, the Kent councillors – think of them as the loony lightweight tendency – are broadly representative of the team that will run Britain. But enough people will have had enough – have already had enough – that they just won’t care about that bit enough not to vote them in."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... cil-voters

Hard Times at the Mill me boys, Hard Times.

Was looking at that. Labour underperformed their polling substantially. For context, Labour have held this commons seat continously since 1918, and the sennedd seat since devolution in 1999.

THAT is bad news for labour.

[Socthesecond]

Lucy Powell, who was the Commons leader until she was sacked in Keir Starmer’s reshuffle at the start of September, was seen as the favourite throughout Labour’s deputy leadership contest.

The result was announced on Saturday morning after a vote that was widely seen as a referendum for Labour members on the direction of the party under Starmer. Bridget Phillipson, the education secretary, was seen as Downing Street’s preferred candidate

Another kick up the transom for Starmer.

Its not great is it?

[Socthesecond]

Complication for Keir Starmer as Lucy Powell wins Labour’s deputy leadership race

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/202 ... ship-race/


And people say Corbyn would have been poor.

[ceannairceach]

Complication for Keir Starmer as Lucy Powell wins Labour’s deputy leadership race

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/202 ... ship-race/


And people say Corbyn would have been poor.

He would have been - she’d be worse!!

That vile cow called people wanting to discuss Pakistani rape gangs as “dog whistle racists”. She is scum.

Saying she wants Labour to “lurch to the left”. I’d say there’s no left, well left!

[Return of the Mac]

He would have been - she’d be worse!!

That vile cow called people wanting to discuss Pakistani rape gangs as “dog whistle racists”. She is scum.

Saying she wants Labour to “lurch to the left”. I’d say there’s no left, well left!

Just going out on a limb here. But I'm sensing a tad bit of hostility towards her

[ceannairceach]

Just going out on a limb here. But I'm sensing a tad bit of hostility towards her

Sarcasm aside, yeah the mare is horrific.

[knownunknown]

A rapist is at large because of the incompetence of the government. They released him by mistake. The rapist who sparked the summer riots, the very same one.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... by-mistake

[Brabantje]

A rapist is at large because of the incompetence of the government. They released him by mistake. The rapist who sparked the summer riots, the very same one.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... by-mistake

No, a rapist is at large because of the incompetence of the prison service, which is not the government.

[knownunknown]

No, a rapist is at large because of the incompetence of the prison service, which is not the government.

Have you got evidence for this? Starmer doesn’t like taking accountability at all, has a habit of blaming others for his mistakes like in the Chinese spy trial collapse where he blamed first the conservatives and then a junior minister who he said acted on his own.

(Relevant time adjusted)

[Brabantje]

Have you got evidence for this? Starmer doesn’t like taking accountability at all, has a habit of blaming others for his mistakes like in the Chinese spy trial collapse where he blamed first the conservatives and then a junior minister who he said acted on his own.

(Relevant time adjusted)

As a matter of fact, i do.

From your own link:

A statement from the force said: “We were informed by the Prison Service at 12.57pm today of an error this morning surrounding the release of an individual.

“As a result of that, we have launched a search operation to locate them and are working closely with partner agencies.

[ceannairceach]

No, a rapist is at large because of the incompetence of the prison service, which is not the government.

Oh give it a rest ffs.

[knownunknown]

As a matter of fact, i do.

From your own link:

I mean, I’m not arguing with what was said but I think it’s slightly pedantic. Definitely it was the fault of the prison service but they are being run by the government. From what I’ve read many people are blaming the government because they provide the staff and funding for the prison service which was at “breaking point”.

There’s never a shortage of officers willing to arrest people for offensive tweets or arrest non violent protestors yet when it comes to the prisoner who started a riot suddenly there is a shortage of officers.

One prison source described the incident as a “disaster waiting to happen” because of the high volume of releases being processed by inexperienced staff, and dozens of prisoners serving different tariffs being released at the same time.

Aaron Stow, the president of the Criminal Justice Workers’ Union (CJWU), called Kebatu’s mistaken release “a profound failure of duty”.

He said: “The release of Hadush Kebatu is a betrayal of the victims, the community, and the principles of justice. We demand a full investigation and immediate reforms to ensure this never happens again.”

Mike Rolfe, the CJWU’s general secretary, added: “The justice system is stretched to breaking point, the public’s confidence is collapsing, and those tasked with enforcing the law are left to pick up the pieces of political cowardice.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... rch-london

[Brabantje]

I mean, I’m not arguing with what was said but I think it’s slightly pedantic. Definitely it was the fault of the prison service but they are being run by the government. From what I’ve read many people are blaming the government because they provide the staff and funding for the prison service which was at “breaking point”.

There’s never a shortage of officers willing to arrest people for offensive tweets or arrest non violent protestors yet when it comes to the prisoner who started a riot suddenly there is a shortage of officers.



https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... rch-london

Yet, here you are. Arguing.

[Socthesecond]

I mean, I’m not arguing with what was said but I think it’s slightly pedantic. Definitely it was the fault of the prison service but they are being run by the government. From what I’ve read many people are blaming the government because they provide the staff and funding for the prison service which was at “breaking point”.

There’s never a shortage of officers willing to arrest people for offensive tweets or arrest non violent protestors yet when it comes to the prisoner who started a riot suddenly there is a shortage of officers.



https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... rch-london

I could go a certain distance down the road with you on this one. The UK Police, the English ones in particular, seem to be hellbent on arresting pensioners who are protesting against the genocide in Gaza.

[knownunknown]

I could go a certain distance down the road with you on this one. The UK Police, the English ones in particular, seem to be hellbent on arresting pensioners who are protesting against the genocide in Gaza.

Protesting what they view as a genocide and I’m in total agreement. Of course they should be allowed to protest peacefully. There are also about 30 arrests for tweets each day.

[ceannairceach]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ondon.html

Scary there are posters siding with these Islamist thugs.

[ceannairceach]

I could go a certain distance down the road with you on this one. The UK Police, the English ones in particular, seem to be hellbent on arresting pensioners who are protesting against the genocide in Gaza.

Well that’s not true - either that it’s a genocide it that innocent people are being arrested.

Idiots joining a proscribed terror organisation are being arrested , as they should be.

[Clanrickard]

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/ar ... u=52138940

Any election is to some extent, a snapshot in time.
But it does appear t that Reform, the Greens and others are on the rise and Labour and the Tories are in decline.

Starmer is a godawful Prime Minister. Having promised so much and having shafted so many to get the gig. I'd imagine its easy to cosy up to the Labour right wing and ensure the staus quo.

Badendoch is either angry or delusional.


Even the Irish Times sat up a bit:

Keir Starmer’s Labour suffers seismic byelection defeat to Plaid Cymru in Wales

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/uk/202 ... -in-wales/


Depending on who you believe Reform are 10 to 12 percentage points ahead of Labour .
Marina Hyde of the Guardian says

"For my money, a third way is currently most likely. Namely, that Reform will win, and that beyond a few golden blazers at the top, the Kent councillors – think of them as the loony lightweight tendency – are broadly representative of the team that will run Britain. But enough people will have had enough – have already had enough – that they just won’t care about that bit enough not to vote them in."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... cil-voters

Hard Times at the Mill me boys, Hard Times.

I worry about the UK

[knownunknown]

So the man who was released by mistake returned to the prison reception several times asking where to go to be deported. It seems he accepted his fate, was happy to leaving the uk, but the incompetency of the prison/police/government saw him go free.

Prison mistakenly released migrant sex offender despite him ‘returning four or five times to reception.

The video clip in this article is like something out of a comedy sketch.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 52180.html

[knownunknown]

I have a strong feeling this is why Farage is leading the polls. Farage has filled the large void left by the established parties. Is it racism or legitimate criticism?

[midlander12]

Hard to get good staff these days.....

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Over 5% of the Reform councillors elected in May have now either resigned or been fired.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/article...

Five Reform UK councillors booted out of party in Kent
It comes after a damaging video leak of the Kent County Council leader shouting and swearing.

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:qougpd ... llors%252F

[marhay70]

I have a strong feeling this is why Farage is leading the polls. Farage has filled the large void left by the established parties. Is it racism or legitimate criticism?

It's the result of years of pandering to the woke. I was listening to a discussion on LBC today in which it was revealed that British Forces veterans were being left to live on the streets, while these so-called asylum seekers are being housed and fed at British taxpayers' expense. Now I know this wasn't the theme of Farage's speech, but British people don't make a distinction, and at this time of year especially, things like this are bound to incense them.
Time to look again at whatever treaty it is that compels countries to house and feed asylum seekers without any verification of the circumstances.

[Brabantje]

It's the result of years of pandering to the woke. I was listening to a discussion on LBC today in which it was revealed that British Forces veterans were being left to live on the streets, while these so-called asylum seekers are being housed and fed at British taxpayers' expense. Now I know this wasn't the theme of Farage's speech, but British people don't make a distinction, and at this time of year especially, things like this are bound to incense them.
Time to look again at whatever treaty it is that compels countries to house and feed asylum seekers without any verification of the circumstances.

British soldiers have always ended up on the streets, as a result of being cast off after their usefulness or with undiagnosed mental health problems such as PTSD. This is not by any means a new phenomenon, nor has it anything to do with immigration.

[Headshot]

Disastrous YouGov poll for Labour