Daddy turning in his grave!Mr Paisley said that he was “open to conversations about a united Ireland. I’m a democrat so I believe in the right to self-determination, and I don’t believe in the armed struggle if I don’t get my own way,”
Ahh ffs now I remember why I gave up on Politics.ie with the rabid republican shytology and often skewed versions of history which you have introduced to this site over the last week.Irish History wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 7:59 pm How does one adopt an entity when that entity is already in the family?
Have you ever seen a serious poll that implied the majority of Irish people did not want the reunification of Ireland?
How much is Mayo or the rest of the West costing the rest of us - maybe we should abandon Mayo also.
Do you understand now why your comment is treasonous, therefore unacceptable?
I mentioned the union of crowns in 1601 didn't I when the one King of Scotland and England?Irish History wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 8:47 pm Au contraire - I am not incorrect, and you only think it is an impossibility because you are ignorant of the historical facts.
Read, look and learn.
1/ The foreign enemy King James I of England (James VI of Scotland) styled himself as King of Great Britain.
Do you realise how dependent most of the jobs in Northern Ireland are on state?knownunknown wrote: ↑Mon Oct 06, 2025 8:03 pm Packaged the right way it’s a win for everyone. It would fix a lot of the border issues we have currently and the level of unchecked immigration from the uk would be better under our control.
I saw this recently and it shocked me, apparently 90% of asylum seekers are arriving through NI. At the moment even if we had the political will to reduce the numbers of asylum seekers we couldn’t because of that border.jmayo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 08, 2025 5:04 pm Do you realise how dependent most of the jobs in Northern Ireland are on state?
Ever dealt with likes of NI NHS Trusts with their myriad of employees pushing paper/emails around to each other?
Also how long have you and I been discussing our dodgy immigration around here?
You think NI under our control will solve it when the Irish government and the government in waiting, yes the ones favoured by majority in NI, are quite happy to readily accept men waltzing through Dublin airport with no identification.
Make no mistake the Shinners are even worse on accepting men from god knows where, well accept Britain I will grant you.
Come on knownunknown give us a break with that line of argument.
What you wrote was.
I replied with image number 1/ that the foreign enemy King James I of England (James VI of Scotland) styled himself as King of Great Britain, and image number 2/that the foreign ethnic British Unionists (clearly shows British) were described as British when they were planted on Irish land (clearly shows Ulster) that they stole from Irish people they murdered or ethnically cleansed - so clearly there was a concept of British people in 1609.The concept of Great Britain, or Kingdom of Great Britain, (and indeed British people) did not develop until the Act of Union of Scotland and England in 1707.
So there was no concept of British people
The BBC has a new podcast out dealing with the topic of the border called ‘Borderland- UK or United Ireland?‘ which pits former Sinn Féin MP Michelle Gildernew (who lost her job with Sinn Féin earlier this year) and former DUP MP Ian Paisley (who lost his seat in the 2024 election) against each other as they advocate for a united Ireland and maintenance of the union with Great Britain respectively.“The former Taoiseach (Irish Prime Minister) Leo Varadkar has accused the Irish government of putting up an “artificial barrier” to a referendum on a united Ireland.
Yes we could.knownunknown wrote: ↑Wed Oct 08, 2025 5:35 pm I saw this recently and it shocked me, apparently 90% of asylum seekers are arriving through NI. At the moment even if we had the political will to reduce the numbers of asylum seekers we couldn’t because of that border.
As the old saying used to go "If my auntie had balls ....."knownunknown wrote: ↑Wed Oct 08, 2025 5:35 pm I grant you and accept Sinn Fein wouldn’t do any different. Their immigration policy is the same as the establishment, but if we had a party in power that wanted to do something they will need control of that border and nobody wants a hard border there.
Look the old industrial base in NI is long gone due to globalisation.knownunknown wrote: ↑Wed Oct 08, 2025 5:35 pm Yeah it’s losing a lot of money alright but I believe an agreement could be met where the UK continues to pay for a lot of it for at least another generation(pensions/NHS), which I have heard talk that they would be willing to accept. My opinion is that NI is a basket case because of poor governance which can be rectified. Their government has been suspended something like 1/3 of the time in the last 20 years(top of my head).
.A threat by the European Union to stall negotiations with the UK government about a new trade deal – unless the Irish Sea border is more tightly enforced – has been described as audacious by Jim Allister.
Interesting that the key words she used were 'when will', as in moving toward date for reunification vote - not 'what are', as in the criteria per se.Stormont’s Justice Minister Naomi Long (Alliance Party) who has called for Secretary of State for Northern Ireland Hilary Benn to set out the criteria for when he would call a border poll.
Unionists delude themselves into thinking and constantly state that the Nationalist vote and support for the reunification of Ireland has not grown since 1998. They do not take the real change from "other" to Nationalist in the Alliance Party into consideration.More Alliance Party members would vote for Irish unity than to remain in UK: survey
.An all-party committee has called for preparations for a united Ireland to begin "immediately", saying that every Government department should examine the implications of constitutional change.
Cross-party committee had asked the Irish government for a green paper and to set out steps towards unity. That hasn't happened, unfortunately, Connolly said.
Article 3 of the (Republic of Ireland's) constitution has set out that it's the firm will of the Irish people, with consent and with all diversity and all different communities that we would have a united Ireland.
.I think we need to prepare for that, the government needs to prepare for that.
What poison and division would that be? Do you realise how asinine your so-called "observation" is given that,NewBroom wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 2:48 pm The only useful observation that I can add to this thread, is that with the likes of the poster who started it knocking about, we will never see a United Ireland. Spreading poison and division.
Like I believe the vast majority of voters in the Republic, I will never vote for a UI unless there is broad agreement on both sides of the border.
And as long as the sort on nonsense we see on this thread is being thrown about, there will be no broad agreement.
I'm assuming the person you agree with and gave a like to doesn't, therefore you also. What other reason for the attack other than I post things as they are in reality? You yourself didn't seem to know when you asked your flippant question "what's a foreign brit" on page 1.
I am not engaging with a poster who acts like a troll but yet calls other posters trolls.Irish History wrote: ↑Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:18 pm I'm assuming the person you agree with and gave a like to doesn't, therefore you also. What other reason for the attack other than I post things as they are in reality?
So, do you have anything of any consequence to add to the thread at all or are you just here to troll?
Yet you are engaging, even if it is to troll, like with your flippant question "what's a foreign brit" - even though it should be obvious what a foreign British person is. The hypocritical thing about you in your last couple of posts is you are now trying to tell me what a foreign British person is as in Unionists.
What would you call a foreign nationality other than foreign?
Members of his own Party have been calling on him for the last year to make preparations for the reunification of our country "immediately" - but Harris doesn't want to talk about it.And I’ve heard other politicians talk about these things as well. You know, you’ve got to be willing to talk about what a new Ireland would look like, and I think that’s what Heather was doing.
Island???The Taoiseach added: “My agenda is really how do we share the island together in a pragmatic and effective way that benefits people, the people who live on the island.”
Wrong - but never in doubt."I don't see any momentum towards the abolition of Northern Ireland . I don't think any of the figures or the statistics play that out.
Wrong - the momentum is there.I think that people are attempting to build that momentum. But I'm not going to be distracted by that. I'm going to focus on delivering for Northern Ireland and making Northern Ireland the very strongest it can be.