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The reunification of Ireland - news, history, debate and analysis

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The reunification of Ireland - news, history, debate and analysis

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The following is the actual reality of the matter and just a statement of historical fact.

Ireland is one of the oldest countries in the world - much older than the 10th century upstart England. At the Council of Constance (ecumenical council) in1416, it was stated that Ireland ranked as one of the four original constituent States of Europe, taking its place after Rome and Byzantium, and before Spain.

We native Irish are Gaels, and our country is named in our stead. We Irish are a distinct people - our Gaelic political and social order and associated culture originated/evolved in Ireland during prehistoric times, and still dominates to this day - despite all the foreign interference.

England (King of England) illegally invaded and fraudulently occupied Ireland. Ireland was later shanghaied into the UK by a foreign British Parliament in Ireland full of foreign ethnic British Unionists, under the control of England's Colonial Office in Dublin Castle - and we Irish people have been trying to get our country Ireland as a whole out of the UK ever since.

Even the foreign British Prime Minister Gladstone confessed in June 1886 :-

"There is no blacker or fouler transaction in the history of man than the making of the union between Great Britain and Ireland. The carrying of it was nothing in the world but an artful combination of fraud and force, applied in the basest manner to the attainment of an end which all Ireland detested. A more base proceeding, a more vile proceeding, is not recorded, in my judgment, in any page of history."

The artificial partition of Ireland was never sought nor sanctioned by the Irish people. It was, and still is to this day, coerced/forced on us by a foreign people and country against the will of the Irish people. Actual democracy and self-determination is still being denied to Irish people as a whole in our own country by a foreign Country and its Nationals it planted in Ireland, and who were given an artificial veto against democracy in Ireland in order to block reunification, and are the reason why Ireland was artificially partitioned just a few decades ago in the first instance.

The Irish people do not want our country Ireland partitioned, and we do not want the foreign country England/Britain occupying Ireland or any part of - we never did.

That is the actual reality of the matter and just a statement of fact - NOW FOR THE NEWS.

https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/polit ... C%E2%80%9D

The SDLP leader has called for a ministry to be set up by the Dublin government to plan for Irish unity.

"Let's stop doing nothing. Let's stop being frozen in a stale status quo, in a political hotel California where the past is ever present, and the future never arrives.”

"So our call is simple to the Irish and British governments: now is the moment to begin real planning. Give the New Ireland the focus it deserves with a new ministry in the south."
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Irish Government must lead unification preparations, says Varadkar.

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/202 ... -varadkar/

Former Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has said he has not “given up” hope the Irish Government will lead Irish unity preparations, even though Fine Gael and Fianna Fáil both abandoned election pledges."

“But Northern Ireland’s not a foreign country, you see? It’s part of my country, maybe a different jurisdiction, but Ireland is one country and Northern Ireland issues are certainly not a foreign affair.”

“Both parties in the Government got elected with a mandate that said that unification should be an objective, and aspirations are not just the same as objectives.”
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There has never been a better time in history. NI is haemorrhaging money and the brits don’t want it anymore.
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knownunknown wrote: Sun Oct 05, 2025 2:26 pm There has never been a better time in history. NI is haemorrhaging money and the brits don’t want it anymore.
The Tory Party Leader came out with a really stupid remark a couple of days ago - the BBC show, 'The View' did an interview with her and she said first that Ireland voted to leave the EU, and then said "northern" Ireland. Wrong on both counts - but it just shows that the foreign brits just haven't a clue about Ireland.

I'm sick of foreign brits talking for Ireland as if Ireland belonged to them.

Here is 'The View' link. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002kczm
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly972lm6ddo

She also referred to counties Derry, Down, Antrim, Armagh, Fermanagh and Tyrone as being a Nation, and one of the four nations of the UK.

She is clearly deluded.
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What is a 'foreign Brit'?
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The worst thing about reunification is dealing with more Nordies in the media etc. Dour angry people with horrific accents. Chips on both shoulders. Huge rates of obesity, alcoholism and domestic abuse.
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Bubblypop wrote: Sun Oct 05, 2025 5:02 pm What is a 'foreign Brit'?
I described what they are in the opening post - you should read it and learn.
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https://labouroutlook.org/2025/10/05/ma ... -to-unity/

Mary Lou McDonald exclusive: "We are on the final length of our journey to unity."

"In 2017 the EU Council made it clear – if and when the people of Ireland North and South vote for reunification – as provided for in the Good Friday Agreement – the North will automatically rejoin the European Union as part of a united Ireland."

"In 1918, the vast majority voted for Irish independence. The British government’s response was partition and armed suppression. Partition was forced on the Irish people against our will. We are still working to unwind the grave damage it has done. Partition was imposed to protect privilege. Establishing in the North a regime built and sustained on discrimination and oppression. Partition denied the people of Ireland our right to self-determination."
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Irish History wrote: Sun Oct 05, 2025 6:33 pm I described what they are in the opening post - you should read it and learn.
No you didn't
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Bubblypop wrote: Sun Oct 05, 2025 6:40 pmNo you didn't
Yes, I clearly did.

If you can't comprehend what you are reading, then this might not be the thread for you.

Your question was a flippant one anyway.
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Irish History wrote: Sun Oct 05, 2025 6:48 pm Yes, I clearly did.

If you can't comprehend what you are reading, then this might not be the thread for you.

Your question was a flippant one anyway.
If you can't explain your statement, it means nothing.
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Bubblypop wrote: Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:37 pm If you can't explain your statement, it means nothing.
What statement would that be - you are not making any sense?

If you are referring to the opening post, it is self-explanatory - or at least it should be to anyone with an IQ above point diddly squat.

Edit: Just in case you are not trolling and really don't understand - foreign British means British people according to British law. This includes the foreign ethnic British Unionists in the occupied 6 counties of Ireland, who are and have always been foreign British Nationals since the first day they were planted as a people in Ireland, to this very day, according to the foreign British 'Home Office'.
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Brian Feeney: "Unionism is sleepwalking into a border poll that it will already have lost. The British government couldn’t care less about this place."

https://archive.is/9fFLG

"Claptrap Gavin and Humphries trot out about “uniting people” first."

"Ploy to avoid the issue pioneered by Micheál Martin, who’s now in effect campaigning against a reunification referendum, falsely claiming in contradiction of the Good Friday Agreement that reconciliation is required and refusing to allow the phrase “united Ireland” to pass his lips."

"Do people (UNIONISTS) not wonder why no-one at the Labour conference saw any irony in waving union flags while the conference slogan behind the platform and on front of the lectern read ‘Renew Britain’?"
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If anyone in the south had the political will for reunification they could make it happen in a heart beat.

Problem is we’re being run by woke parties who no longer care one jot about nationalism, in fact they hate it.
It’s won’t be just the flag they want rid of but any talk of unification breeds nationalistic sentiment.

https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/a-unit ... 6-Sep2025/
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Irish History wrote: Sun Oct 05, 2025 7:56 pm What statement would that be - you are not making any sense?

If you are referring to the opening post, it is self-explanatory - or at least it should be to anyone with an IQ above point diddly squat.

Edit: Just in case you are not trolling and really don't understand - foreign British means British people according to British law. This includes the foreign ethnic British Unionists in the occupied 6 counties of Ireland, who are and have always been foreign British Nationals since the first day they were planted as a people in Ireland, to this very day, according to the foreign British 'Home Office'.
Ehh for someone that is quick to chastise others about their lack of knowledge of history you are incorrect. :D

You claim that "ethnic British Unionists in the occupied 6 counties of Ireland, who are and have always been foreign British Nationals since the first day they were planted as a people in Ireland" is an impossibility.

Their ancestors could date back to the official Ulster plantation by James I of England (James VI of Scotland) in 1609.

The concept of Great Britain, or Kingdom of Great Britain, (and indeed British people) did not develop until the Act of Union of Scotland and England in 1707.
So there was no concept of British people/British subjects unless you want to start claiming British people were Britons back in the Iron Age.

And yes there was a union of the crowns of Scotland and England since James in 1603, but it wasn't a united kingdom until act of union.
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knownunknown wrote: Sun Oct 05, 2025 2:26 pm There has never been a better time in history. NI is haemorrhaging money and the brits don’t want it anymore.
So you reckon the citizens of this state want to adopt an entity that is haemorrhaging money?
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jmayo wrote: Mon Oct 06, 2025 7:47 pm So you reckon the citizens of this state want to adopt an entity that is haemorrhaging money?
How does one adopt an entity when that entity is already in the family?

Have you ever seen a serious poll that implied the majority of Irish people did not want the reunification of Ireland?

How much is Mayo or the rest of the West costing the rest of us - maybe we should abandon Mayo also.

Do you understand now why your comment is treasonous, therefore unacceptable?
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jmayo wrote: Mon Oct 06, 2025 7:47 pm So you reckon the citizens of this state want to adopt an entity that is haemorrhaging money?
Packaged the right way it’s a win for everyone. It would fix a lot of the border issues we have currently and the level of unchecked immigration from the uk would be better under our control.
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jmayo wrote: Mon Oct 06, 2025 7:45 pm Ehh for someone that is quick to chastise others about their lack of knowledge of history you are incorrect. :D

You claim that "ethnic British Unionists in the occupied 6 counties of Ireland, who are and have always been foreign British Nationals since the first day they were planted as a people in Ireland" is an impossibility.

Their ancestors could date back to the official Ulster plantation by James I of England (James VI of Scotland) in 1609.

The concept of Great Britain, or Kingdom of Great Britain, (and indeed British people) did not develop until the Act of Union of Scotland and England in 1707.
So there was no concept of British people/British subjects unless you want to start claiming British people were Britons back in the Iron Age.

And yes there was a union of the crowns of Scotland and England since James in 1603, but it wasn't a united kingdom until act of union.
Au contraire - I am not incorrect, and you only think it is an impossibility because you are ignorant of the historical facts.

Read, look and learn.

1/ The foreign enemy King James I of England (James VI of Scotland) styled himself as King of Great Britain.

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2/ The foreign ethnic British Unionists were described as British when they were planted on Irish land (Ulster) they stole from Irish people they murdered or ethnically cleansed.

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https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/202 ... st-action/
How long is it before promoting Scottish, Welsh and Irish independence is deemed to be a terrorist action?
Some people are really losing the plot now.
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The SDLP is serious about Irish unity. It’s not box-ticking, it’s not going through the motions, or making throwaway comments for a quick political hit.
In her address to her party conference in Belfast, Claire Hanna spoke about the excitement of creating “a brand new nation”.

https://archive.is/5hwpz
It is much easier for Micheal Martin and Simon Harris to ignore or dismiss demands to prepare for a united Ireland when they come solely from Sinn Fein. The SDLP calling for the same alters the dynamic, and gives the Fianna Fail and Fine Gael leaderships less political cover.
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An all-party committee (Committee on the Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement) has called for preparations for a united Ireland to begin "immediately".
Link here: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/07 ... committee/

The disgusting thing about the treasonous Micheal Martin and Simon Harris is that their own political parties, Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, are calling for immediate preparations for the reunification of our country Ireland.

That was over a year ago - God save Ireland.
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Irish History wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2025 3:01 pm Link here: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/07 ... committee/

The disgusting thing about the treasonous Micheal Martin and Simon Harris is that their own political parties, Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, are calling for immediate preparations for the reunification of our country Ireland.

That was over a year ago - God save Ireland.
All bluster, that was last year. This year they’re upset people are flying Irish flags.

National flags erected without permission
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The longer it takes for a border poll to be held in the North the more likely I think a very awkward situation is to develop.

It's not insane to imagine a scenario in which Sinn Fein are in government in the Dail, and manage to secure a border poll, which is passed in favour of reunification in the North, but the voters in South reject reunification.

That would be a right mess if it came to pass.
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