Presidential Election 2025

[schmittel]

Election starts proper tonight with the first televised debate, 10 pm Virgin Media.

Kind of looking forward to it, even though I think the line up is rubbish.

I am expecting a total car crash from both Connolly and Gavin, with Humphries winning it by dint of saying not much at all but being not as unappealing as the other two.

[Irish History]

The three of them are incorrect to say they want to be the 10th President of Ireland.

In actual fact and in reality, de Valera was the first President of Ireland. He was elected on the 26th of August 1921 in exactly the same way de HÍde was elected in 1938 - by a Parliament.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/de ... 20Republic

De Valera was also the President of the real 32 county Dáil Éireann, and was President of the Irish Volunteers (the real Óglaigh na hÉireann).

Those are just the historical fact and the reality of the matter - the State deceives people through its education system, all part of the Free State foundation myth lie.

Make of those historical facts as you wish.

[schmittel]

Gavin just finding a way to shoehorn some part of his CV into answer for every question.
Not a great style.

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Catherine Connolly came across better than expected I thought. Certainly was no car crash.
Gavin out his depth. Humphries seemed oddly ill prepared.

[Irish History]

Gavin was confusing and conflating the 26 county State with our country, the 32 country Ireland at the end.

As for the aul reconciliation before reunification BS - manna from heaven for the Unionists. Someone should tell the fool Gavin that Unionists will never reconcile if it means there will be no vote on the reunification of Ireland before "reconciliation". Seriously - stupid people who think there needs to be reconciliation before reunification should read the GFA. It's clear from the ravings of Micheál Martin, parroted by members of Fianna Fail, that the reconciliation the likes of them mean is reconcile yourself to the continuation of foreign British rule in Ireland.

Micheál Martin over the years has been actively working against the reunification of Ireland, talking it down every time there is any talk of the reunification of Ireland. It is very strange - one could be forgiven for thinking Micheál Martin is a British Agent. Do you remember a couple of years ago, Micheál Martin wanted to change the 50 percent plus in the GFA to a higher percentage in order to win the vote on the reunification of Ireland, and now he is championing "reconciliation" as a barrier to the reunification of Ireland. Very fishy. The Unionists love him - or should I say, his Unionist handlers love him.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/9938148/brit ... ng-report/

https://magill.ie/archive/british-spies ... ish-spooks

[knownunknown]

The three of them are incorrect to say they want to be the 10th President of Ireland.

In actual fact and in reality, de Valera was the first President of Ireland. He was elected on the 26th of August 1921 in exactly the same way de HÍde was elected in 1938 - by a Parliament.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/de ... 20Republic

De Valera was also the President of the real 32 county Dáil Éireann, and was President of the Irish Volunteers (the real Óglaigh na hÉireann).

Those are just the historical fact and the reality of the matter - the State deceives people through its education system, all part of the Free State foundation myth lie.

Make of those historical facts as you wish.

If you include devalera you must include two more surely that would make them the 12th. Why do you think they aren’t considered former presidents?

[Irish History]

If you include devalera you must include two more surely that would make them the 12th. Why do you think they aren’t considered former presidents?

What two are you referring to?

[knownunknown]

What two are you referring to?

[knownunknown]

Catherine Connolly came across better than expected I thought. Certainly was no car crash.
Gavin out his depth. Humphries seemed oddly ill prepared.

This is the car crash. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... -election/

[NewBroom]

Gavin was confusing and conflating the 26 county State with our country, the 32 country Ireland at the end.

As for the aul reconciliation before reunification BS - manna from heaven for the Unionists.

Ah give up that aul guff... everyone except the zealots know that there will be No border poll till the outcome is without question on both sides of the border. I'd have no time for any of the three current candidates but at least on that you will see that they all agree.

Which matter is going to be troublesome for the Cat when the hardline Shinners get questions to her. She's trying to ride multiple horses on the 'left' and you can just see the fall coming.

As for Humphreys, God help us if she gets the nod - imagine putting up with that whiney border accent for the next seven years. Spare us.

And spare us Gavin and his aul GAA guff. Mind you he could be the best choice yet as he'll just park himself up the Aras and smile politely wothout ever opening his mouth much.

[Irish History]

Do you and the person who gave you a like not understand the difference between the President of a country, 32 county Ireland, and the Prime Minister of a government of the Dominion of the British Empire 26 county State???

Just so ye know in relation to your image - the equivalent of the President of 32 county Ireland was the enemy King, who was Head of the Dominion of the British Empire 26 county State, and in foreign British law, the King of 32 county Ireland - a legal claim the recently deceased foreign British Queen made between 1952 and1953.

Dei Gratia Magnae Britanniae, Hiberniae et terrarum transmarinarum quae in ditione sunt Britannica Regina, Fidei Defensor

By the Grace of God of Great Britain, Ireland and the British Dominions beyond the Seas Queen, Defender of the Faith


And that little historical nugget shines a another light on another Free State foundation myth lie.

[Irish History]

Ah give up that aul guff... everyone except the zealots know that there will be No border poll till the outcome is without question on both sides of the border. I'd have no time for any of the three current candidates but at least on that you will see that they all agree.

Which matter is going to be troublesome for the Cat when the hardline Shinners get questions to her. She's trying to ride multiple horses on the 'left' and you can just see the fall coming.

As for Humphreys, God help us if she gets the nod - imagine putting up with that whiney border accent for the next seven years. Spare us.

And spare us Gavin and his aul GAA guff. Mind you he could be the best choice yet as he'll just park himself up the Aras and smile politely wothout ever opening his mouth much.

What "guff" would that be???

They never mentioned that there would be no border poll till the outcome is without question on both sides of the border. They mentioned that there needs to be reconciliation before reunification. There does not need to be reconciliation before reunification - there simply needs to be a majority of 50 percent plus 1 extra voter.


RE: CC - I don't see why - the GFA is the GFA.


RE: Humphreys - On the other hand, the fact she is of foreign ethnic British Unionist stock, would should could help reunify Ireland if she were truly that way inclined.


RE: Gavin - Not the best choice for the reunification of our county, Ireland.

[NewBroom]

Connolly for all her rants, does not believe in the 50+1% concept for Irish unity. And neither does anyone else with a normal degree of mental acuity.

[Irish History]

Connolly for all her rants, does not believe in the 50+1% concept for Irish unity. And neither does anyone else with a normal degree of mental acuity.

Just so you know, it's 50% +1 - not 50+1%. And it's not a mere concept, it's the law, and it's actual democracy. Anyone with a normal degree of mental acuity knows that.

And where did Connolly state she does not believe in the 50+1% (50% +1) concept for Irish unity (reunification of Ireland)??? Sounds like nonsense to me.

Just yesterday Connolly said.

The government has had the Joint Oireachtas Committee’s report providing a "clear blueprint for a new Ireland for over a year and has failed to act. That is deeply irresponsible. The work must begin now."

And.

"We cannot delay, deny, or obstruct that right. The Irish and British governments should agree a date for a border poll, and begin preparing now to ensure it is inclusive, fair, and respectful of all traditions."

https://www.carlow-nationalist.ie/news/ ... 72698.html

[Socthesecond]

I feel Connolly has it. She was quite good on the Joe brolly/Dion Fanning podcast. Although HH is bookies' fav.

[Milipod]

Have not been following it to busy

[schmittel]

I feel Connolly has it. She was quite good on the Joe brolly/Dion Fanning podcast. Although HH is bookies' fav.

I'm surprising myself by leaning towards voting for her currently. She's a bit extreme left for my tastes, and I don't really agree with much of what she says but at least she is articulate and coherent in saying it.

The other two are very underwhelming.

[Socthesecond]

The other two are very underwhelming.

Indeed, Gavin's a plank and 33.3% of everything Humphries says is uhhhh!

[Gatsbygirl]

Indeed, Gavin's a plank and 33.3% of everything Humphries says is uhhhh!

Jeez, Gavin was very poor on that debate. Not that I want to be too critical of the guy, but what was Martin thinking?

Heather was weak also. She was always a rather poor and hesitant speaker, even as a Minister. Mind you, she had improved greatly on Claire Byrne show yesterday

Connolly looked like a winner on the debate. She was the only one who listened to the questions and answered them naturally in her own words, instead of trying to remember a script, as the others---especially Gavin---tried to do.

But recent information about Connolly and the Eirigí member could damage her

[Statsman]

Is this the least inspiring set of candidates in any Presidential election since forever? At this stage, I'm voting for CC, but with no great enthusiasm.

[knownunknown]

Housing/gaza/immigration seemed to dominate. Gavin might win on this issue alone.

“Jim Gavin said that the level of immigration over the past three years is unsustainable and needs to be tackled”

[Gatsbygirl]

Is this the least inspiring set of candidates in any Presidential election since forever? At this stage, I'm voting for CC, but with no great enthusiasm.

No real drama (so far)..You can sense the media salivating for a Casey moment. Remember Casey criticising Travellers... then coming on the radio weeping and crying and apologising...then withdrawing from the contest,.. then thinking better of it and withdrawing his withdrawal ...then doing an about-face and saying he loved Travellers and would invite them to Phoenix Park

That's the kind of stuff the media love. Pure Love Island/ Soap Opera stuff...every day a new headline.

That's why they were so excited about Maria Steen.

[jmayo]

I never remember Casey crying and weeping.
And I never remember him actually withdrawing from the race, but saying he would consider it.

I do however remember every other politician, all the political parties, all the other candidates and all the media savaging him for speaking the truth when it came to travellers.
And I do remember he went from around 1% in the polls to over 20% in the ballots.

Then again I am not someone that rates pro hamas people like Catherine Connolly.

Oh and I don't really know if the media were excited about Maria Steen running or indeed Nick Delahanty (as evidenced by the cretinous so called interview by Kieran Cuddity), as these people on the ballot would really show the level of dissatisfaction of Irish people with the main political parties in this country and by extension the narrative that the media has been pedaling for the last few years now.

[knownunknown]

I never remember Casey crying and weeping.
And I never remember him actually withdrawing from the race, but saying he would consider it.

I do however remember every other politician, all the political parties, all the other candidates and all the media savaging him for speaking the truth when it came to travellers.
And I do remember he went from around 1% in the polls to over 20% in the ballots.

Then again I am not someone that rates pro hamas people like Catherine Connolly.

[midlander12]

Jeez, Gavin was very poor on that debate. Not that I want to be too critical of the guy, but what was Martin thinking?

Heather was weak also. She was always a rather poor and hesitant speaker, even as a Minister. Mind you, she had improved greatly on Claire Byrne show yesterday

Connolly looked like a winner on the debate. She was the only one who listened to the questions and answered them naturally in her own words, instead of trying to remember a script, as the others---especially Gavin---tried to do.

But recent information about Connolly and the Eirigí member could damage her

I didn't see the debate but I heard a bit of CC on the CB Show this morning, Frankly she's pretty smart at avoiding questions. Anything about her hiring of the Eirigi woman became about 'rehabilitation', batting away any concerns about her employing a convicted criminal and ignoring any issues that might raise, And before you knew it we were hearing about her 14 siblings, 7 boys and 7 girls. At one stage I thought she was going to start crying. She also completely ignored a question about German rearmament, saying she was trying to give worried students hope, or something.

It's a shocking lineup.