Israel and Palestine

[ceannairceach]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 025-09-01/

And yet there are those who still claim there is no genocide in Palestine; there is no Israeli made starvation in Palestine; there is no collective "punishment" in Palestine; there is no deliberate targetting of aid workers and medical personell and hospitals/clinics.
Israel apparently can do no wrong according to those people.

Israel has continuously broken international law since 1948, almost without a break.
Israel as the occupation force has specific obligations under international law, but has ignored them.

Bad as the Israeli actions are - and they are terrible indeed - what is even worse IMO is the international reaction (more the lack thereof), which I find inexplicable and for which there is no excuse whatsoever.
To stand by and watch what has been happening and to do nothing is complicit, but as all of "the west" is together in their complicity there is none to stop the atrocities.

Worst of all of course is the USA which arms and supports in every way those Israeli murderous actions in the region.
I look forward to the day that those Israelis, and their supporters, are subject to their own version of 'the nakba'. Should it happen in my lifetime it will be a cause for great jubilation ... almost as much as that displayed by Israeli soldiers as they destroy and kill in Gaza.

There is no genocide in Palestine unless you count that committed by Hamas.

[schmittel]

Even if all that were true, which it isnt’t, why did the Palestinians find no resolution in the Oslo accords of the 90’s? Why did they not accept a state when it was handed to them on a platter?

Hamas has been ruling Gaza since 2006 (with an iron fist) and has seen its worst ever time under their administration.

Israel forced their people out of their homes of Gaza at gunpoint to allow for the Palestinians of Gaza to self rule.

The suggestion that the failure of Oslo is solely the fault of the Palestinians is a bit disingenuous.

The rise of Hamas can be undoubtedly be directly attributed to the collapse of the Oslo accords. When Yitzhak Rabin was PM of Israel, and was offering a state on a platter, the then PLO rulers of Palestine were only too happy to accept it.

Likud were dead against recognition/negotiation with Palestine just as Hamas are dead against recognition/negotiation with Israel.

It's worth remembering why Oslo unravelled in the first place, it was the death of Yitzhak Rabin after he was assassinated by an Israeli extremist

The events leading up to death were somewhat fraught to say the least.

National religious conservatives and Likud party leaders believed that withdrawing from any "Jewish" land was heresy. The Likud leader and future prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, accused Rabin's government of being "removed from Jewish tradition and Jewish values". Right-wing rabbis associated with the settlers' movement prohibited territorial concessions to the Palestinians and forbade soldiers in the Israel Defense Forces from evacuating Jewish settlers under the accords. Some rabbis proclaimed din rodef, based on a traditional Jewish law of self-defense, against Rabin personally, arguing that the Oslo Accords would endanger Jewish lives.

Rallies organized by Likud and other right-wing groups featured depictions of Rabin in a Nazi SS uniform, or in the crosshairs of a gun. Protesters compared the Labor party to the Nazis and Rabin to Adolf Hitler and chanted, "Rabin is a murderer" and "Rabin is a traitor". In July 1995, Netanyahu led a mock funeral procession featuring a coffin and hangman's noose at an anti-Rabin rally where protesters chanted, "Death to Rabin". The chief of internal security, Carmi Gillon, then alerted Netanyahu of a plot on Rabin's life and asked him to moderate the protests' rhetoric, which Netanyahu declined to do. Netanyahu denied any intention to incite violence.

The Israeli government is a coalition of ultra nationalist and religious extremists organisations with a veneer of democratic respectability provided by the citizens of Israel.

They didn't accept the Oslo accord and ousting Rabin was their prime directive, calling for his death for his crime of negotiation with the Palestinians. They got their way in the most successful assassination in history.

Rabin was assassinated in November 1995.

A little over six months later Netanyahu was Prime Minister and all talk of peace and reconciliation was over.

His party and government have maintained a policy of increasing the settlements ever since. Simultaneously Hamas' power and influence have increased.

The two are unlikely to be coincidental.

[PureIsle]

A short documentary from the BBC about the murder of children with head and chest shots apparently by sniper fire.
It barely scratches the surface, but at least it does expose a little of what has been happening in Palestine.

Two girls shot in Gaza - BBC pieces together what happened and looks at dozens more child shootings

The BBC World Service has pieced together the stories of Layan al-Majdalawi, two, and Mira Tanboura, six, both killed in Gaza in separate incidents in November 2023, in areas where the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) was operating.

In response to our findings, the IDF said the details of Layan and Mira's cases had been recorded and "will be examined by the competent authorities". It added: "Intentional harm to civilians, especially children, is strictly prohibited."

Layan and Mira are just two of more than 160 cases of children shot in the war in Gaza, for whom we have gathered accounts.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cjelp738zd7o

[knownunknown]

A Palestinian Muslim woman explains precisely the how and why behind Oct. 7th in a video from 2016.

[ceannairceach]

A short documentary from the BBC about the murder of children with head and chest shots apparently by sniper fire.
It barely scratches the surface, but at least it does expose a little of what has been happening in Palestine.






https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cjelp738zd7o

Oh yes the good old Hamas broadcasting corporation.

Off the stage eh ?

[ceannairceach]

A Palestinian Muslim woman explains precisely the how and why behind Oct. 7th in a video from 2016.

Chilling. Brave woman though.

They care not about people but just about destroying Israel and they have ample useful idiots to pass on their propaganda.

I once read a book that asked “what would have happened if Hitler or Goebbels had access to social media”.

Now we know.

[marhay70]

Chilling. Brave woman though.

They care not about people but just about destroying Israel and they have ample useful idiots to pass on their propaganda.

I once read a book that asked “what would have happened if Hitler or Goebbels had access to social media”.

Now we know.

Prepare to be pilloried, opinions other than "Palestinian good, Israeli bad" are not tolerated on this thread.

[ceannairceach]

Prepare to be pilloried, opinions other than "Palestinian good, Israeli bad" are not tolerated on this thread.

Oh I’m aware!! Bring them on ..!!

[PureIsle]

Google pockets $45m to fuel Netanyahu’s propaganda denying Gaza famine

Google has signed a six-month, $45m contract with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office to run propaganda campaigns denying famine in Gaza and promoting Tel Aviv’s war narrative.

The deal, revealed in government disclosures, places Google and its YouTube platform as “key entities” in Netanyahu’s messaging drive, managed through Israel’s state advertising bureau Lapam.

Ads paid for under the contract insist “there is food in Gaza” despite the UN declaring famine and warning of mass starvation, with at least 367 Palestinians—131 of them children—already dead from hunger and malnutrition.
Alongside YouTube, Israel is spending millions more on platforms like X and Outbrain/Teads, funding videos that accuse the UN of “sabotage,” discredit the Hind Rajab Foundation, and push debunked claims against Hamas.

The campaigns were launched in June not only to counter reports of famine but also to justify Israel’s bombing of Iran during Operation Rising Lion, which killed more than 400 civilians.

Google co-founder Sergey Brin reportedly dismissed UN criticism of the company’s role as “transparently antisemitic,” while rights groups accuse the tech giant of profiting from genocide.

(Drop Site News)

Ah yes, now we see, in this one example, how much those Israeli murderers are spending to disseminate their lies and propangandise those fools who believe those lies. There are likely many more examples of this not yet revealed.

Quite a few of the propagandised on this thread too, but eventually they just might see the error of their ways and maybe even admit (oh horror!) that Israel is committing genocide in Palestine. They likely still believe the lies about beheaded babies and baby roasted in an oven, as well as systemic rape on OCt 7th. I guess that is what propaganda can do.

Most of the peoples in the world, including non-Zionist Jews, are in agreement on the issue, but of course there are always those who are so propagandised that they can never see what is apparent to the majority.
Sad really.
.

[ceannairceach]

Ah yes, now we see, in this one example, how much those Israeli murderers are spending to disseminate their lies and propangandise those fools who believe those lies. There are likely many more examples of this not yet revealed.

Quite a few of the propagandised on this thread too, but eventually they just might see the error of their ways and maybe even admit (oh horror!) that Israel is committing genocide in Palestine. They likely still believe the lies about beheaded babies and baby roasted in an oven, as well as systemic rape on OCt 7th. I guess that is what propaganda can do.

Most of the peoples in the world, including non-Zionist Jews, are in agreement on the issue, but of course there are always those who are so propagandised that they can never see what is apparent to the majority.
Sad really.
.

Very sad - when they can see the Hamas terrorists have plenty of dickheads willing to shill for them for free.

[knownunknown]

20% of Israel identify as Palestinians from ‘48. They live a great life and nobody has ever tried to genocide them except Hamas and their other Arab brothers from Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia who have all attacked Israel since their foundation.

Israel have an Arab on their Supreme Court.

Israel is fighting a war against a terrorist body deeply embedded into a civilian population, a population with one of the highest population denisities on earth, that don’t give a feck about their own civilians.

It’s not a genocide, it’s a perversion of warfare by barbaric scumbags who happily train children to be soldiers and get them to dig their tunnels.

Here’s a report of some 160 Palestinian children who died digging Hamas terror tunnels, but the Hamas cheerleaders only care about children when the joos are involved.

https://www.wiesenthal.com/about/news/d ... inian.html

Hamas Killed 160 Palestinian Children to Build Tunnels

[Bubblypop]

Ah yes, now we see, in this one example, how much those Israeli murderers are spending to disseminate their lies and propangandise those fools who believe those lies. There are likely many more examples of this not yet revealed.

Quite a few of the propagandised on this thread too, but eventually they just might see the error of their ways and maybe even admit (oh horror!) that Israel is committing genocide in Palestine. They likely still believe the lies about beheaded babies and baby roasted in an oven, as well as systemic rape on OCt 7th. I guess that is what propaganda can do.

Most of the peoples in the world, including non-Zionist Jews, are in agreement on the issue, but of course there are always those who are so propagandised that they can never see what is apparent to the majority.
Sad really.
.

One could say the same for those pro terrorist individuals. The best outcome for everyone, including Palestinians is the elimination of Hamas.

[ceannairceach]

20% of Israel identify as Palestinians from ‘48. They live a great life and nobody has ever tried to genocide them except Hamas and their other Arab brothers from Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia who have all attacked Israel since their foundation.

Israel have an Arab on their Supreme Court.

Israel is fighting a war against a terrorist body deeply embedded into a civilian population, a population with one of the highest population denisities on earth, that don’t give a feck about their own civilians.

It’s not a genocide, it’s a perversion of warfare by barbaric scumbags who happily train children to be soldiers and get them to dig their tunnels.

Here’s a report of some 160 Palestinian children who died digging Hamas terror tunnels, but the Hamas cheerleaders only care about children when the joos are involved.

https://www.wiesenthal.com/about/news/d ... inian.html

Hamas Killed 160 Palestinian Children to Build Tunnels

Oh you with all your facts and truths … stop it!!!

[marhay70]

20% of Israel identify as Palestinians from ‘48. They live a great life and nobody has ever tried to genocide them except Hamas and their other Arab brothers from Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia who have all attacked Israel since their foundation.

Israel have an Arab on their Supreme Court.

Israel is fighting a war against a terrorist body deeply embedded into a civilian population, a population with one of the highest population denisities on earth, that don’t give a feck about their own civilians.

It’s not a genocide, it’s a perversion of warfare by barbaric scumbags who happily train children to be soldiers and get them to dig their tunnels.

Here’s a report of some 160 Palestinian children who died digging Hamas terror tunnels, but the Hamas cheerleaders only care about children when the joos are involved.

https://www.wiesenthal.com/about/news/d ... inian.html

Hamas Killed 160 Palestinian Children to Build Tunnels

Palestine had much the same opportunities to develop their territory as Israel, and what did it do with them? SFA. Israel's part included the Negev desert, which is now partly pasture and arable land. Israel built desalination plants, reservoirs, power plants, solar farms, roads, communications, a defence system that's the envy of the world. Defeated their enemies in two wars within 25 years of becoming a state. What did Palestine do? Zilch, except sit around with their hands out like a certain ethnic minority in this country, and cry Ochón.

[knownunknown]

A former Hamas terrorist, Mohammad Massad, who participated in the first intifada explains why he changed sides.

[jmayo]

Anyone keeping an eye on the La Vuelta cycling race in Spain.
The Team Israel Premier-Tech team has been targeted.
The amount of pro Palestine protestors blocking roads.
Of course there was issue around Bilbao, maybe it's the old terrorists connections coming out.

I am really surprise the Guardia Civil haven't been beating the living shyte out of them.
Then again the government is left wing ass licks.

[ceannairceach]

There’s an unarmed wing???

https://www.thejournal.ie/armed-wing-ha ... 8-Sep2025/

FRO Journal!

[NattyO]

There’s an unarmed wing???

https://www.thejournal.ie/armed-wing-ha ... 8-Sep2025/

FRO Journal!

Kneecap.

[ceannairceach]

Kneecap.

Top answer btw - except for a would class a constant bang of weed and stale BO emanating from them as going equipped!!

[Headshot]

Feels like there's going to be war in the middle east caused by Israel

[ceannairceach]

Feels like there's going to be war in the middle east caused by Israel

Oh so close - last 3 words fcked you up

[knownunknown]

Feels like there's going to be war in the middle east caused by Israel

The war started on Oct 7th when Hamas invaded another country, murdered thousands of innocent people in cold blood and took hundreds as hostages. The Hamas leadership that have been living it up in Qatari hotels while their civilians are bombed, refusing to find a peace arrangement, got exactly what was coming to them. feck them I hope they burn in hell.

[Jequ0n]

The war started on Oct 7th when Hamas invaded another country, murdered thousands of innocent people in cold blood and took hundreds as hostages. The Hamas leadership that have been living it up in Qatari hotels while their civilians are bombed, refusing to find a peace arrangement, got exactly what was coming to them. feck them I hope they burn in hell.

The war started long before October 7, and it will frankly never end.

[ceannairceach]

The war started on Oct 7th when Hamas invaded another country, murdered thousands of innocent people in cold blood and took hundreds as hostages. The Hamas leadership that have been living it up in Qatari hotels while their civilians are bombed, refusing to find a peace arrangement, got exactly what was coming to them. feck them I hope they burn in hell.

This. All the live long day.

[knownunknown]

The war started long before October 7, and it will frankly never end.

Some still harp on about “ Tiocfaidh ár lá” and say our war will never end until full control. Most sensible people have moved on, solely to avoid bloodshed.

When Ireland started its war of independence it seized government buildings and government offices trying to control the government. That’s an act of war, not the spineless IRA terrorists who would plant bombs and then retreat into the shadows. They were gutless cowards perpetuating hate and conflict.

Hamas has had full control of their government since they were elected in 2005, it was supposed to be a parliamentary system where they shared some power with the minority parties, but they decided no more elections and threw their rivals off the rooftops. The removal of the Israeli settlers from Gaza, by force and at gunpoint by the Israeli government, did nothing to appease Hamas, the controlling power in Gaza.

Since then they’ve had a defacto-state and total control over their daily lives. They live off of international donations and without them their population couldn’t possible have boomed in the last few decades like it has, as one of the fastest growing populations in the world. When they decided to invade Israel and slaughter thousands and taken hundreds hostage on Oct. 7th, from the comfort of their Qatari hotels mind you, they started a war. One nation invaded another and targeted civilians by raping and murdering them.

The ira bombing the uk is not an act of war until the IRA are the political party that represents us, which is why they have always been opposed by the great people of Ireland.