Thin Skinned Politicians

[NattyO]

Oh right, your life experience allows you to threaten to rape and murder children does it?
Not sure at all why you are arguing this, noone agrees that it is ok or understandable

Exactly, nobody, including me, have said its ok, yet, as usual, you are trying to argue that I have.

You are naive, everyone sees that. You have naive ideas about everything you post about, ideas that can only come from someone who has led a very sheltered or comfortable existence. That's fine, fair play to you, but it blinds you to how everyone is not the same (unless they are immigrants, they get a pass from you), and some people may have had experiences that you couldn't even imagine, and may react to those experiences in a way that is outside your bubble.

You claim that "noone agrees that is ok or understandable" is, I believe incorrect - no one says it is OK, but I would guess that many would believe it to be understandable, especially in the light of what has emerged about Simon Harris in recent weeks. Anger is sometimes understandable.

[Bubblypop]

Have you never threatened or intimidated someone in a moment of red mist? At the end of the day it’s just words

Someone? Yeah quite possibly.
Some unrelated children? Nope, never. I'd wager most people wouldn't

[Bubblypop]

Exactly, nobody, including me, have said its ok, yet, as usual, you are trying to argue that I have.

You are naive, everyone sees that. You have naive ideas about everything you post about, ideas that can only come from someone who has led a very sheltered or comfortable existence. That's fine, fair play to you, but it blinds you to how everyone is not the same (unless they are immigrants, they get a pass from you), and some people may have had experiences that you couldn't even imagine, and may react to those experiences in a way that is outside your bubble.

You claim that "noone agrees that is ok or understandable" is, I believe incorrect - no one says it is OK, but I would guess that many would believe it to be understandable, especially in the light of what has emerged about Simon Harris in recent weeks. Anger is sometimes understandable.

You couldn't be any further from the truth. I have no idea why you insist on personal remarks.
No, nobody would believe it's understandable to threaten to rape and murder innocent children.

[NattyO]

You couldn't be any further from the truth. I have no idea why you insist on personal remarks.
No, nobody would believe it's understandable to threaten to rape and murder innocent children.

You keep mentioning raping children, where are you getting that from? I only know that Simon Harris claims he was threatened, not saying that isn't the case, just that I haven't seen that.

I'm not trying to be personal, merely pointing out that fact that a lot of your posts exhibit considerable naivete, though only when it comes to certain subjects. When it comes to semantics and reasoned debate, that naivete quickly disappears - for instance, we've gone now from me saying that it might be understandable if not OK for a bereaved mother to threaten someone she saw as responsible for her child's death, to you accusing me of condoning the rape of children. This is how you "debate" all the time, both here and elsewhere. I've never seen you address another's posts, only the strawman you put up. It not us, its you I'm afraid.

[Bubblypop]

You keep mentioning raping children, where are you getting that from? I only know that Simon Harris claims he was threatened, not saying that isn't the case, just that I haven't seen that.

I'm not trying to be personal, merely pointing out that fact that a lot of your posts exhibit considerable naivete, though only when it comes to certain subjects. When it comes to semantics and reasoned debate, that naivete quickly disappears - for instance, we've gone now from me saying that it might be understandable if not OK for a bereaved mother to threaten someone she saw as responsible for her child's death, to you accusing me of condoning the rape of children. This is how you "debate" all the time, both here and elsewhere. I've never seen you address another's posts, only the strawman you put up. It not us, its you I'm afraid.

That's what the threat was, rape and murder of his daughter.
I am not in the slightest bit naïve, far from it. And as has been pointed out many times by the admin do not attack the poster. You repeatedly post about me, personally. I'm afraid if you cannot debate the posts, that's you.

[Berties_Horse]

That's what the threat was, rape and murder of his daughter.
I am not in the slightest bit naïve, far from it. And as has been pointed out many times by the admin do not attack the poster. You repeatedly post about me, personally. I'm afraid if you cannot debate the posts, that's you.

You're a nasty piece of work, twisting and contorting beyond all proportion. The only poster introducing "rape and murder" into the narrative is you, wilfully muddying the waters. A stonewall case of backseat moderation to boot. Stop disingenuously misrepresenting contributers here and you might be taken seriously one day.

[NattyO]

That's what the threat was, rape and murder of his daughter.
I am not in the slightest bit naïve, far from it. And as has been pointed out many times by the admin do not attack the poster. You repeatedly post about me, personally. I'm afraid if you cannot debate the posts, that's you.

There you go again - claiming to be attacked, while grievously misrepresenting me, backseat moderating, and then claiming that I'm not debating!

I realise you're used to getting away with this kind of thing elsewhere, and getting anyone who you can't bully off a thread, banned, but this forum is far more balanced I'm afraid, that doesn't work here.

Now, as you are fond of saying, show us proof of these claims of rape of children that you keep bleating on about.

[Bubblypop]

You're a nasty piece of work, twisting and contorting beyond all proportion. The only poster introducing "rape and murder" into the narrative is you, wilfully muddying the waters. A stonewall case of backseat moderation to boot. Stop disingenuously misrepresenting contributers here and you might be taken seriously one day.

AHH more personal abuse, when you cannot engage properly, resort to personal abuse.
The woman that was arrested, threatened to rape and murder his child. The whole point of the thread.

[Bubblypop]

There you go again - claiming to be attacked, while grievously misrepresenting me, backseat moderating, and then claiming that I'm not debating!

I realise you're used to getting away with this kind of thing elsewhere, and getting anyone who you can't bully off a thread, banned, but this forum is far more balanced I'm afraid, that doesn't work here.

Now, as you are fond of saying, show us proof of these claims of rape of children that you keep bleating on about.

Are you not aware of the threats that are the point of this thread?

[Berties_Horse]

AHH more personal abuse, when you cannot engage properly, resort to personal abuse.
The woman that was arrested, threatened to rape and murder his child. The whole point of the thread.

Sending out the clarion call of desperation isn't going to absolve you from scrutiny, dishonest bleating about "personal abuse" is cowardly in the extreme.

[Truthslayer]

Sending out the clarion call of desperation isn't going to absolve you from scrutiny, dishonest bleating about "personal abuse" is cowardly in the extreme.

Do you still live at home with your mother? I’m sure she wouldn’t like to hear about her son defending people threatening to rape children.

[NattyO]

Are you not aware of the threats that are the point of this thread?

There you go again, disingenuous as always.

I'm aware of the threats obviously, I've read the news reports. I haven't read anywhere of the threat to rape children other than your claims here - so I'll ask again - do you have proof of these claims?

[Berties_Horse]

Do you still live at home with your mother? I’m sure she wouldn’t like to hear about her son defending people threatening to rape children.

You're a tragic individual disfigured by fictional narratives concocted in a warped headspace. God help you. Somebody must, although I suspect your advocates are few and far between.

[Jequ0n]

Do you still live at home with your mother? I’m sure she wouldn’t like to hear about her son defending people threatening to rape children.

You’d be surprised. Most mothers would do their utmost to protect and defend their children at any cost, no matter the allegation.

[Jequ0n]

There you go again, disingenuous as always.

I'm aware of the threats obviously, I've read the news reports. I haven't read anywhere of the threat to rape children other than your claims here - so I'll ask again - do you have proof of these claims?

I asked earlier what was actually said/ posted and have yet to see any concrete details. I think people just make things up to be as dramatic as possible.

[Bubblypop]

There you go again, disingenuous as always.

I'm aware of the threats obviously, I've read the news reports. I haven't read anywhere of the threat to rape children other than your claims here - so I'll ask again - do you have proof of these claims?

I've seen them myself. Is one type of harm worse then another ?

[NattyO]

I've seen them myself. Is one type of harm worse then another ?

You've seen them yourself? Ah, ok, sure no proof needed then.

[NewBroom]

This thread is/ was about thin skinned (or maybe manipulative) politicians in general. And the frequently aired complaint that politicians attract too much negative comment, particularly on social media which can dissuade them from standing again or standing for election in the first place. Rubbish I say, take the rough with the smooth.

Simon Harris just happens to be in the news in a related way, but he's not thin skinned in any way. He's a thick brass neck in truth and can well handle i.e. ignore commentary he doesn't like. The only posters here talking of raping & murdering children are Truthslayer and Bubbly. And trying to foist that disgusting narrative onto other posters.

So ignoring that red herring, I have little sympathy for wannabe and real politicians who only want to hear nice things about themselves and their policies. Credit where credit is due but a bollocking where a bollocking is deserved.

[Bubblypop]

This thread is/ was about thin skinned (or maybe manipulative) politicians in general. And the frequently aired complaint that politicians attract too much negative comment, particularly on social media which can dissuade them from standing again or standing for election in the first place. Rubbish I say, take the rough with the smooth.

Simon Harris just happens to be in the news in a related way, but he's not thin skinned in any way. He's a thick brass neck in truth and can well handle i.e. ignore commentary he doesn't like. The only posters here talking of raping & murdering children are Truthslayer and Bubbly. And trying to foist that disgusting narrative onto other posters.

So ignoring that red herring, I have little sympathy for wannabe and real politicians who only want to hear nice things about themselves and their policies. Credit where credit is due but a bollocking where a bollocking is deserved.

And how do you consider it thin skinned when someone's children are threatened? How would any parent react in that circumstance

[Berties_Horse]

Simon Harris just happens to be in the news in a related way, but he's not thin skinned in any way. He's a thick brass neck in truth and can well handle i.e. ignore commentary he doesn't like. The only posters here talking of raping & murdering children are Truthslayer and Bubbly. And trying to foist that disgusting narrative onto other posters.

The dynamic duo are only interested in projection, baiting posters into a transparent cul de sac. Alas, most of us are conscious of such cynical tactics. Antagonising for a desired reaction, the last refuge of a petty scoundrel incapable of cogent debate.

[Jequ0n]

And how do you consider it thin skinned when someone's children are threatened? How would any parent react in that circumstance

It’s part of their job to deal with public dissatisfaction and with the occasional inappropriate outburst. If you can’t handle it you shouldn’t pursue a career where you will encounter overly emotional and unreasonable opinions. I’m sure politicians are well trained on this matter and your concerns are wasted effort.

[Bubblypop]

It’s part of their job to deal with public dissatisfaction and with the occasional inappropriate outburst. If you can’t handle it you shouldn’t pursue a career where you will encounter overly emotional and unreasonable opinions. I’m sure politicians are well trained on this matter and your concerns are wasted effort.

Politicians should be able to deal with public dissatisfaction, absolutely. I'm sure they're even used to off topic personal abuse. But different to someone threatening their kids though.

[Berties_Horse]

It’s part of their job to deal with public dissatisfaction and with the occasional inappropriate outburst. If you can’t handle it you shouldn’t pursue a career where you will encounter overly emotional and unreasonable opinions. I’m sure politicians are well trained on this matter and your concerns are wasted effort.

It's grand, these incontinent muppets are free to post falsehoods with impunity. No sanctions need apply. And to be perfectly honest, let them. However when I'm subject to selective censorship then balanced discourse goes out the window. Cry wanking the report button does not offer any credibility, delusional complex overload.

[Jequ0n]

Politicians should be able to deal with public dissatisfaction, absolutely. I'm sure they're even used to off topic personal abuse. But different to someone threatening their kids though.

“Threatening” someone’s kids is simply a safe way to ensure attention and a reaction, nothing else.
And I bet in this case it was one a case of “I wish this will happen to your child so you will understand what it feels like” comment rather than a full blown announcement of a crime.
As someone else pointed out earlier nobody will more than one brain cell would announce a crime they intended of committing. It’s a lot of hot air.

[Jequ0n]

It's grand, these incontinent muppets are free to post falsehoods with impunity. No sanctions need apply. And to be perfectly honest, let them. However when I'm subject to selective censorship then balanced discourse goes out the window. Cry wanking the report button does not offer any credibility, delusional complex overload.

I simply feel free to disregard any claims of such nature that’s can’t be backed up. If someone wants to report me they are free to do so.