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[knownunknown]

Where did I write it was?

I wrote that I don't think people or the media questioning her about her family connection to the Orange Order was in any way sectarian abuse.
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You wrote “ I don't think people or the media questioning her about her family connection to the Orange Order was in any way sectarian abuse.”

She was questioned about these things during her campaign for presidency of Ireland. Since you don’t believe it’s connected to sectarian abuse, I’m asking you how is her family’s connections to the orange order relevant to the presidency of Ireland.

You either say it’s not or it is and explain the connection. If the question has no relevance to the presidency of Ireland than just the very point of asking it can be seen as abuse. You and I both know when what the person asking this question is getting at. “You’re a prod, aren’t ya?”.

[Irish History]

You wrote “ I don't think people or the media questioning her about her family connection to the Orange Order was in any way sectarian abuse.”

She was questioned about these things during her campaign for presidency of Ireland. Since you don’t believe it’s connected to sectarian abuse, I’m asking you how is her family’s connections to the orange order relevant to the presidency of Ireland.

You either say it’s not or it is and explain the connection. If the question has no relevance to the presidency of Ireland than just the very point of asking it can be seen as abuse. You and I both know when what the person asking this question is getting at. “You’re a prod, aren’t ya?”.

Not being connected to the Orange Order is not a prerequisite to be the President of Ireland.

As for being as you put it a "prod" - as the man said, I don't care what you eat, it doesn't make me fat.

To clarify - everyone knows she is a Protestant - the vast majority do not care. It's a non issue as when she was a Minister. And I don't think people or the media questioning her about her family connection to the Orange Order was in any way sectarian abuse. It's of human interest yes - abuse, don't think so.
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[knownunknown]

Not being connected to the Orange Order is not a prerequisite to be the President of Ireland.

As for being as you put it a "prod" - as the man said, I don't care what you eat, it doesn't make me fat.
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Ok I’m just wasting my time.

[Irish History]

Ok I’m just wasting my time.

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What's your problem exactly?

What are you having difficulty understanding?
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[NewBroom]

I wrote that I don't think people or the media questioning her about her family connection to the Orange Order was in any way sectarian abuse.

You are seriously deluded. The sectarian abuse that HH got in this campaign will be quoted for a long, long time to come by even moderate unionists. It was a disgrace. If MaryLou's bosses are serious about a border poll, they should have worked to get HH elected. It was a no brainer. Sometimes you'd just hold your head in your hands and despair at the stupidity. Does these people really want to reunify Ireland or just use it as an excuse to get votes and keep on the payroll.

[knownunknown]

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What's you problem exactly?

What are you having difficulty understanding?
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I never knew which religion she was, nor did I care. The people quick to point this out know what they’re doing and people like you covering for them know what you’re doing. This is the type of game that causes divides and leads down the path of violence and death.

“Just asking questions” about her family’s connection to the orange order or whatever is sectarian signalling. It has no relevance to the presidency of Ireland. That’s what you can’t explain and are avoiding.

I don't think people or the media questioning her about her family connection to the Orange Order was in any way sectarian abuse

You either want engagement or you don’t. Up to you. It’s your thread and that’s what you said and you’ve made no attempt to explain it.

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I never knew which religion she was, nor did I care. The people quick to point this out know what they’re doing and people like you covering for them know what you’re doing. This is the type of game that causes divides and leads down the path of violence and death.

“Just asking questions” about her family’s connection to the orange order or whatever is sectarian signalling. It has no relevance to the presidency of Ireland. That’s what you can’t explain and are avoiding.



You either want engagement or you don’t. Up to you. It’s your thread and that’s what you said and you’ve made no attempt to explain it.

What's to explain - it should be self explanatory. I don't think people or the media questioning her about her family connection to the Orange Order was in any way sectarian abuse. of human interest yes - abuse no.

And I also answered you about the relevance of the question above. I clearly wrote, Not being connected to the Orange Order is not a prerequisite to be the President of Ireland.

Do you have a problem with comprehension?

As for you not knowing what her religion is - hard to believe, but on the other hand maybe not surprising. Everyone else knows she is a Protestant - the vast majority do not care. It's a non issue, as when she was a Minister.
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[Irish History]

You are seriously deluded. The sectarian abuse that HH got in this campaign will be quoted for a long, long time to come by even moderate unionists. It was a disgrace. If MaryLou's bosses are serious about a border poll, they should have worked to get HH elected. It was a no brainer. Sometimes you'd just hold your head in your hands and despair at the stupidity. Does these people really want to reunify Ireland or just use it as an excuse to get votes and keep on the payroll.

No - I'm not deluded. What was the sectarian abuse??? I read of people, even herself referring to abuse - but I have yet to read or hear what was the actual abuse was.

[knownunknown]

What's to explain - it should be self explanatory. I don't think people or the media questioning her about her family connection to the Orange Order was in any way sectarian abuse. of human interest yes - abuse no.

And I also answered your about the relevance of the question above. I clearly wrote, Not being connected to the Orange Order is not a prerequisite to be the President of Ireland.

Do you have a problem with comprehension?

As for you not knowing what her religion is - hard to believe, but on the other hand maybe not surprising.

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I understand exactly what you’re saying and it’s vile. This is why no one wants to touch this subject and you’ll never get your unification. Good luck.

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I understand exactly what you’re saying and it’s vile. This is why no one wants to touch this subject and you’ll never get your unification. Good luck.

You clearly do not know what I'm saying - or should I say you do but want to twist it.

Troll on somewhere else then.
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[Irish History]

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Ireland united in theory but divided in practice.

https://www.irishpost.com/comment/irela ... ice-280090

The arguments for a united Ireland? I completely agree with them. The truncated six county state makes no sense. An island this size should not have two jurisdictions. A united Ireland is both historically and ethically justified. It is democratically justified. So, yes, I agree completely with a united Ireland.

And so that one simple question remains. What is a united Ireland going to do about thousands and thousands of people who do not want to be part of a united Ireland? Now, the way that others talk about this, talk about a united Ireland as if there is an eventuality about this, does make me think I’m missing something.

Yes Joe - you are missing something.
Unionists are signed up to the GFA reunification of Ireland process, therefore the tenets of democracy - something unto recent decades, as far as the historical Nation of Ireland and the native Irish people are concerned, Unionists had yet to embrace.
It is assumed (and rightly so), like in other referenda around the world, that those who disagree give their losers consent. Some Unionists may feel they just can't assimilate into Irish society (like Arlene Foster) and will return to their native homeland Britain.
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[SuirView]

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Ireland united in theory but divided in practice.

https://www.irishpost.com/comment/irela ... ice-280090





Yes Joe - you are missing something.
Unionists are signed up to the GFA reunification of Ireland process, therefore the tenets of democracy - something unto recent decades, as far as the historical Nation of Ireland and the native Irish people are concerned, Unionists had yet to embrace.
It is assumed (and rightly so), like in other referenda around the world, that those who disagree give their losers consent. Some Unionists may feel they just can't assimilate into Irish society (like Arlene Foster) and will return to their native homeland Britain.
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Is that the same Arlene Foster that attended the Ulster GAA football final?

[Irish History]

Is that the same Arlene Foster that attended the Ulster GAA football final?

One and the very same - she even stood for the National Anthem of 32 county Ireland.
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[SuirView]

One and the very same - she even stood for the National Anthem of 32 county Ireland.
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The same Arlene Foster that attended the funeral of Martin McGuinness R.I.P.

[Irish History]

The same Arlene Foster that attended the funeral of Martin McGuinness R.I.P.

Yes that Arlene Foster - her presence was warmly received and she got a round of applause when she entered the church.

A lot of Unionists were very annoyed with her for going and she lost some friends over it.

[Irish History]

The all party Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement discussed an all Ireland healthcare system on the 21st of Oct.

Professor Anne Matthews, DCU and Professor Deirdre Heenan, Ulster University were the main speakers.

Deirdre Heenan is better known for being a talking head on UTV and BBC - she was also mooted as a Presidential candidate.

You can watch it here - Heenan lit a fire under all their arses.

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/de ... 025-10-21/
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[SuirView]

Yes that Arlene Foster - her presence was warmly received and she got a round of applause when she entered the church.

A lot of Unionists were very annoyed with her for going and she lost some friends over it.

Correct, Arlene showed great maturity when she did these good deeds.
Reminded me of when the last SF Presidential candidate Liadh said on live television that she would wear the poppy!

[Irish History]

Correct, Arlene showed great maturity when she did these good deeds.
Reminded me of when the last SF Presidential candidate Liadh said on live television that she would wear the poppy!

Wrong - she was never a SF Presidential candidate, and she never wore a poppy. She was a Sinn Fein candidate for the President of Ireland though.

Micheál Martin said he would NEVER wear a poppy, until he did - just another lie from Micheál Martin, but his British/Unionist handlers love him.

Poor Fianna Fail.

"Ha ha, I'll just leave this here."
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[Return of the Mac]

Wrong - she was never a SF Presidential candidate, and she never wore a poppy. She was a Sinn Fein candidate for the President of Ireland though.

Micheál Martin said he would NEVER wear a poppy, until he did - just another lie from Micheál Martin, but his British/Unionist handlers love him.

Poor Fianna Fail.

"Ha ha, I'll just leave this here."
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I'm probably going to regret asking this. But what exactly is the difference between the SF Presidential candidate & Sinn Fein candidate for the President of Ireland. It strikes me as pure semantics

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I'm probably going to regret asking this. But what exactly is the difference between the SF Presidential candidate & Sinn Fein candidate for the President of Ireland. It strikes me as pure semantics

No, not semantics - more to do with grammar. And you should have no regrets anytime you learn something new.

Mary Lou McDonald was a SF Presidential candidate - elected unopposed. Ní Riada was a Sinn Fein candidate for the President of Ireland.
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[Return of the Mac]

No, not semantics - more to do with grammar. And you should have no regrets anytime you learn something new.

Mary Lou McDonald was a SF Presidential candidate - elected unopposed. Ní Riada was a Sinn Fein candidate for the President of Ireland.
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To be fair you're 100% correct. But it does seem slightly pedantic.

[Irish History]

To be fair you're 100% correct. But it does seem slightly pedantic.

You are right about it being pedantic, but in my defence, SuirView was trolling - I was just putting him back under his bridge.
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[SuirView]

Wrong - she was never a SF Presidential candidate, and she never wore a poppy. She was a Sinn Fein candidate for the President of Ireland though.

Micheál Martin said he would NEVER wear a poppy, until he did - just another lie from Micheál Martin, but his British/Unionist handlers love him.

Poor Fianna Fail.

"Ha ha, I'll just leave this here."
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You’re just being childish imo and don’t want to deal with the fact that the SF candidate for President of Ireland said on live television that she would wear the poppy!
You do know her reasons for saying that she’d wear the poppy, don’t you?

[SuirView]

You are right about it being pedantic, but in my defence, SuirView was trolling - I was just putting him back under his bridge.
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Posting the truth about what SF’s Liadh said on live television about wearing the poppy is not trolling!

[Irish History]

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