Birmingham bans Tel Aviv Supporters

[Jequ0n]

Again, if you did you wouldn’t be making such pathetic sarcastic comments about “percentages”.

I’m Irish, I’m pissed off about how we were treated, I’ve a Jewish nan - I’m seriously pissed off that Islamist fcking losers get to dictate to the police who can come into a city they should be deported from.

It was a genuine question. According to these very reliable DNA databases I am partially Jewish but I don’t see how that would influence my opinion at all. It means absolutely nothing.

I am still unclear. Are you annoyed because you wanted to go to the match and could not, or because you feel that you (by extension) have been victimised on principle?

[Clanrickard]

It really is that simple. Let the police do their work without political interference.

It really isn't that simple. Police should ensure people get to go about their lawful business despite threats from other groups. UKIP have been banned from marching through Tower Hamlets because the Met said it had a 3-% Muslim population and there could be trouble. Pro Palestinian groups marched where they liked in London threatening to rape Jewish women and waving Hamas and Hezbollah and the police stood there. It's two tier policing.

[Clanrickard]

I’m sure that radical Islamists featured in the risk assessments. You do realise that radical cells are often being monitored for a long time to be taken down at the right moment? Nobody needs a random football match to artificially increase tension and endanger fans and locals for no reason other than avoiding the accusation of any isms.
Maybe I am seriously missing something in this whole debate but I cannot understand at all why this is being turned into such a massive deal.

And that's your problem right there.

[ceannairceach]

It really isn't that simple. Police should ensure people get to go about their lawful business despite threats from other groups. UKIP have been banned from marching through Tower Hamlets because the Met said it had a 3-% Muslim population and there could be trouble. Pro Palestinian groups marched where they liked in London threatening to rape Jewish women and waving Hamas and Hezbollah and the police stood there. It's two tier policing.

Someone is jailed for 31 months for saying migrant hotels should be burned down - which was wrong, and she said it in fury after one of these vermin murdered three little girls at a dance class. She removed it immediately.

Labour councillor Ricky Jones said on camera “the far right should all have their throats slit” complete with demonstrating gesture (note when he says “far right” he means anyone who disagrees with open borders and being pissed off at a thousand chancers a day swarming across the Channel).

He walks free and guaranteed he holds those opinions to this day.

Two tier justice.

[ceannairceach]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ondon.html

Fcking disgraceful scenes. They’re a fecking caliphate now.

[Bubblypop]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ondon.html

Fcking disgraceful scenes. They’re a fecking caliphate now.

What is disgraceful about standing up to far right group UKIP?

[knownunknown]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ondon.html

Fcking disgraceful scenes. They’re a fecking caliphate now.

I said many times this is only the beginning. Anyone with two brain cells can see it, I don’t understand why so many in this thread are being willfully ignorant.

Some people don’t like that a certain section of the community were banned from the match in Birmingham and they now would like to see another larger section of society banned from where they are. Isn’t this how all this works now?

Cause mayhem anger and destruction or merely threats of it and your enemy gets banned and punished.

[ceannairceach]

What is disgraceful about standing up to far right group UKIP?

Oh read that damn story ffs.

[knownunknown]

What is disgraceful about standing up to far right group UKIP?

Right so you're happy for protestors to come and be targeted by whoever fancies travelling to the city?

[ceannairceach]

I said many times this is only the beginning. Anyone with two brain cells can see it, I don’t understand why so many in this thread are being willfully ignorant.

Some people don’t like that a certain section of the community were banned from the match in Birmingham and they now would like to see another larger section of society banned from where they are. Isn’t this how all this works now?

Cause mayhem anger and destruction or merely threats of it and your enemy gets banned and punished.

I’m assuming certain posters assume that the concrete planters near the top of Grafton Street and soon to come to every Christmas market in Europe are merely there for decoration.

There’s actually ignorant which I feel sorry for you and then there’s deliberately ignorant which is just pathetic. And tbh positing ALL THE DAMN TIME with a stupid question is just annoying.

[Bubblypop]

Oh read that damn story ffs.

I did. UKIP were planning to march in their area?

[ceannairceach]

I did. UKIP were planning to march in their area?

Ah bless you, you read but didn’t understand.

Who died and made it “their” area ffs ???

[Jequ0n]

What is disgraceful about standing up to far right group UKIP?

There is nothing disgraceful about it unless you decide to hide your face during a public prostest.

[knownunknown]

There is nothing disgraceful about it unless you decide to hide your face during a public prostest.

[Jequ0n]

Yes I had read the article but thank you.

[Bubblypop]

Ah bless you, you read but didn’t understand.

Who died and made it “their” area ffs ???

Of course I did.
They live there, it's their community, their area.

[Nullzer0]

What is disgraceful about standing up to far right group UKIP?

Because fundamentalist Islam makes our idea of far right look like a socialist picnic.

If you hate women and gays and trans people then Islam is perfect for you.

For a long time we could pretend it wasn't an issue and that any criticism of Islam was based tin racism but we've reached a point where Islam wants to begin dictating to people in the west how to live their lives and a couple of decades on from us in Ireland getting the Catholic churchs hand off of our neck we would be insane to lay down and accept what fundamentalist Islam is proposing. They can feck right off.

[ceannairceach]

Because fundamentalist Islam makes our idea of far right look like a socialist picnic.

If you hate women and gays and trans people then Islam is perfect for you.

For a long time we could pretend it wasn't an issue and that any criticism of Islam was based tin racism but we've reached a point where Islam wants to begin dictating to people in the west how to live their lives and a couple of decades on from us in Ireland getting the Catholic churchs hand off of our neck we would be insane to lay down and accept what fundamentalist Islam is proposing. They can feck right off.

Loved your posts on t’other site - good to see yoh here!!

100% spot in there!!!

[Bubblypop]

Because fundamentalist Islam makes our idea of far right look like a socialist picnic.

If you hate women and gays and trans people then Islam is perfect for you.

For a long time we could pretend it wasn't an issue and that any criticism of Islam was based tin racism but we've reached a point where Islam wants to begin dictating to people in the west how to live their lives and a couple of decades on from us in Ireland getting the Catholic churchs hand off of our neck we would be insane to lay down and accept what fundamentalist Islam is proposing. They can feck right off.

Which completely ignored the actual question.
What is wrong with standing up to far right group UKIP?

[Jequ0n]

Which completely ignored the actual question.
What is wrong with standing up to far right group UKIP?

The only reason the likes of UKIP have been gaining traction is because the governments have been absolutely passive and reactive about the impact of migration. If the running government actually bothered to enforce some measures to prioritise and protect some traditional British values UKIP and co would loose their appeal. No need for virtue signalling opposition.

[ceannairceach]

I grew up in the 70s when far right meant the likes of the National Front and skinhead gangs marching.

Apparently the woke loons now think far right is anyone that disagrees with them that there is a problem with mass illegal migration.

[knownunknown]

UKIP sought a permit to have their march but were refused in a specific area and had to move it elsewhere. In the same day thousands of Muslims showed up in black bloc covering their faces without a permit and were allowed to “protest” and the police did nothing.

At least they did arrest the counter protestors who tried to follow them, leading to several arrests of counter protestors, not ukip.

Who’s standing up to whom exactly? I’ve become lost.

Looks like the same thing is being planned for next weekend. Until round two.

[12gauge dave]

I grew up in the 70s when far right meant the likes of the National Front and skinhead gangs marching.

Apparently the woke loons now think far right is anyone that disagrees with them that there is a problem with mass illegal migration.

This does bother me terribly, anyone who has general concerns is labelled far right, its genius on their part but degrading and dangerous to put a label on people in order to put them in a bracket and say "look the bad guys". Very dehumanising.

[Jequ0n]

UKIP sought a permit to have their march but were refused in a specific area and had to move it elsewhere. In the same day thousands of Muslims showed up in black bloc covering their faces without a permit and were allowed to “protest” and the police did nothing.

At least they did arrest the counter protestors who tried to follow them, leading to several arrests of counter protestors, not ukip.

Who’s standing up to whom exactly? I’ve become lost.

Looks like the same thing is being planned for next weekend. Until round two.

And there should have been the same response as there was when the “right” protested. It just means that next time there will be a massive counter protest and mass arrests, which will give the government the chance to pass down new “peacekeeping” laws or whatever they will be labelled.

[Nullzer0]

Which completely ignored the actual question.
What is wrong with standing up to far right group UKIP?

Except it doesn't.

I love how a certain sub section of people online like to treat every response they receive as unacceptable.

UKIP are legitimised by the far worse and far more intolerant fundamentalist Islam. Plain and simple.

In isolation I probably have nothing in common with UKIP but in the situation we're in, where fundamentalist Islam is an Increasing issue, such groups are the lesser of two evils.

We can contain and control groups like UKIP, we have absolutely no impact on fundamentalist Islam. We're sleep walking into a deeply dystopian future where adherence to theocratic systems like that proposed by Islamic fundamentalist groups in the UK are concerned.

I don't want to live in an intolerant society governed by religious zealots. I'll deal with UKIP after the wacko Islamic fundamentalists are dealt with. That the order of importance.

I'm actually dumbfounded that we find ourselves having to make these choices in this day and age but for all the years I was on your side accusing people of being racists etc these loons have been gathering their numbers and they do not like any of us, even those of us who feel we're being charitable to them. They hate us all. It's a bizarre situation but it's the situation we're in unfortunately. I'd happily live peacefully with everyone, but there's one group who will not entertain that idea.