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Free Money for the Undeserving

ceannairceach
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Free Money for the Undeserving

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https://www.thejournal.ie/basic-income- ... op-stories

This garbage has to stop.

Is there any group this Government won’t give a handout to that don’t deserve it ??

Give it to carers, pensioners, the genuinely unwaged, afterschool or breakfast clubs to reduce childcare costs for hardworking tax payers ….

But no let’s give it to Fearghalle (she/they) who macramés Palestine flags from his own unibrow hair …
knownunknown
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ceannairceach wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:21 pm https://www.thejournal.ie/basic-income- ... op-stories

This garbage has to stop.

Is there any group this Government won’t give a handout to that don’t deserve it ??

Give it to carers, pensioners, the genuinely unwaged, afterschool or breakfast clubs to reduce childcare costs for hardworking tax payers ….

But no let’s give it to Fearghalle (she/they) who macramés Palestine flags from his own unibrow hair …
It’s a way to fund the woke even more. The cost benefit analysis is a joke and would apply to anyone on the social welfare. They say if they pay 325€ per week this actually saves the government 244€ per week is somehow a joke. Farce.

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ceannairceach
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knownunknown wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:32 pm It’s a way to fund the woke even more. The cost benefit analysis is a joke and would apply to anyone on the social welfare. They say if they pay 325€ per week this actually saves the government 244€ per week is somehow a joke. Farce.

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They genuinely must think we are stupid!!
BrianD3
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A particularly galling subject for me given that I gave up a good job to be a family carer and got 1850 per year (Carer's Support Grant) from the state for CARING FOR A PERSON 24/7/365. No Carer's Allowance because I didn't pass the means test due to being stupid enough to save my money when I was working. To add insult to injury, a couple of years ago I was called into the social welfare office to justify the care I was giving for 1850.
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ceannairceach wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:21 pm https://www.thejournal.ie/basic-income- ... op-stories

This garbage has to stop.

Is there any group this Government won’t give a handout to that don’t deserve it ??

Give it to carers, pensioners, the genuinely unwaged, afterschool or breakfast clubs to reduce childcare costs for hardworking tax payers ….

But no let’s give it to Fearghalle (she/they) who macramés Palestine flags from his own unibrow hair …
"A cost-benefit analysis has found the scheme has produced over €100m in socio-economic benefits" LOL!

I've seen a few of these cost-benefit analysis, written by those with skin in the game, and they are usually utterly ludicrous, plucking numbers out of the air, and multiplying them by other numbers, equally as fanciful.

This free money blitz for "the arts" is given for two reasons:
1) Many sons and daughters of politicians and senior civil servants are art-degree wastrels, and this pays for their dope and beer
and
2) The beneficiaries are overwhelmingly the type of social-media lefties that wave Palestinian flags, want more refugees, and will always vote for the status quo, so it's an easy vote-buying exercise.
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The cost benefit analysis says 1.39 will be returned on each euro of which only .17c is arts generation. That means this analysis states that if you give everyone the extra money as a universal payment the cost benefit would be 1.22 per euro. Mainly due to increase in mental health (about 80% of the increase)
Shows you what a joke it is really.
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BrianD3 wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:39 pm A particularly galling subject for me given that I gave up a good job to be a family carer and got 1850 per year (Carer's Support Grant) from the state for CARING FOR A PERSON 24/7/365. No Carer's Allowance because I didn't pass the means test due to being stupid enough to save my money when I was working. To add insult to injury, a couple of years ago I was called into the social welfare office to justify the care I was giving for 1850.
That’s disgusting carry on.
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knownunknown wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:45 pm That’s disgusting carry on.
I was called to the SW office to justify the miserable payment, luckily I didn't have to travel far so didn't have to pay someone to look after my relative while I was there. Into office, asked what caring I do.. I started talking about assisting with transfers. "Oh is that from the ambulance when they go to hospital" she says. Eh, no, it's multiple times per day assisting the person with basic activities like standing up out of a chair and using the toilet.
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BrianD3 wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:52 pm I was called to the SW office to justify the miserable payment, luckily I didn't have to travel far so didn't have to pay someone to look after my relative while I was there. Into office, asked what caring I do.. I started talking about assisting with transfers. "Oh is that from the ambulance when they go to hospital" she says. Eh, no, it's multiple times per day assisting the person with basic activities like standing up out of a chair and using the toilet.
That’s exactly why I put carers - it makes me so angry that there are good people like yourself and thousands of others doing the HSE/Govt’s job for them and saving millions and getting nothing.

Bless you and the others, you do a wonderful task.
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ceannairceach wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:21 pm https://www.thejournal.ie/basic-income- ... op-stories

This garbage has to stop.

Is there any group this Government won’t give a handout to that don’t deserve it ??

Give it to carers, pensioners, the genuinely unwaged, afterschool or breakfast clubs to reduce childcare costs for hardworking tax payers ….

But no let’s give it to Fearghalle (she/they) who macramés Palestine flags from his own unibrow hair …
Do those fookers in the journal ever proof read the garbage they put out?

I gave up on the content years ago, but this is terrible from our so called self appointed betters and truth purveyors in the journal.

As for the scheme it is yet another waste of money, when people like BrianD3 make a huge contribution, not alone helping an individual, but also saving the state a fortune.
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This scheme was brought in by the Green Machine and by Catherine Martin particular, one of the worst ministers of recent years. Along with the Baldy Fella and his stupid machines where we queue to do something we are paying for anyway. And the Shoddy Roddy chap with his open borders, cead míle failte guff.

The artists money is a waste of public funds. If any artist is doing work of any real value, then the public should support them with buying their stuff, paying for tickets etc. If the public are not interested in doing that, then the artist is not worth supporting, there is no demand for what they do.
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If you don't appreciate the arts, don't watch TV series, film, don't read books, listen to music, attend theatre, enjoy art/design.
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Belladonna wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 9:26 pm If you don't appreciate the arts, don't watch TV series, film, don't read books, listen to music, attend theatre, enjoy art/design.
What a stupid argument!

I am reading a book at the moment by someone who started with fck all and got there in merit with no handouts (JK Rowling)

I’ve just finished a film that was made by someone who mortgaged their house to finance it and again got no handouts (Glass - M Night Shymalsn) and I’m looking at a notebook covered with Van Gogh’s Sunflowers- died impoverished.

Art does not come from giving any loser with a guitar string precious funds that could be much better used.
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Still worth funding the arts though. Deciding that they're all gonna waste it is kneejerk to say the least.
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Belladonna wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 10:05 pm Still worth funding the arts though. Deciding that they're all gonna waste it is kneejerk to say the least.
Then fund theatres and dance schools and writing workshops that benefit all.
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….and it becomes permanent. These artists will end up supporting every cause de jour and every government policy while the reasoning they give, “better mental well being” equally applies to anyone who is on unemployment benefits.

It’s a farce.
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LOL!

A lot of artist haters around!
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Quato wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2025 3:54 pm LOL!

A lot of artist haters around!
Carl Jung said that people who focus on other peoples reaction to a policy, rather than the policy itself, are trying to manipulate you. He was a clever person.
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Quato wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2025 3:54 pm LOL!

A lot of artist haters around!
I love the arts - I just don’t want to contribute ad nauseum to some plank like that c**t who squatted in Apollo House and his acolytes.
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knownunknown wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2025 4:04 pm Carl Jung said that people who focus on other peoples reaction to a policy, rather than the policy itself, are trying to manipulate you. He was a clever person.
Really now?
I asked the AI about the validity of your post. Here is the answer:

"No, Carl Jung did not state that focusing on others' reactions to a policy indicates manipulative intent; rather, he believed that our intense reactions to others, including their actions, are often projections of our own unacknowledged or unresolved psychological issues, fears, and insecurities. His concept of projection suggests that what irritates us in others is likely something within ourselves that we have repressed or failed to acknowledge, making them a mirror for self-understanding. "

I think he is correct there. The constant hitting at LBTG people, immigrants, Muslims, "the regime", "the left", unemployed people, etc. in some internet posts is very revealing.
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Quato wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2025 5:06 pm Really now?
I asked the AI about the validity of your post. Here is the answer:

"No, Carl Jung did not state that focusing on others' reactions to a policy indicates manipulative intent; rather, he believed that our intense reactions to others, including their actions, are often projections of our own unacknowledged or unresolved psychological issues, fears, and insecurities. His concept of projection suggests that what irritates us in others is likely something within ourselves that we have repressed or failed to acknowledge, making them a mirror for self-understanding. "

I think he is correct there. The constant hitting at LBTG people, immigrants, Muslims, "the regime", "the left", unemployed people, etc. in some internet posts is very revealing.
Oh ffs.
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Quato wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2025 5:06 pm Really now?
I asked the AI about the validity of your post. Here is the answer:

"No, Carl Jung did not state that focusing on others' reactions to a policy indicates manipulative intent; rather, he believed that our intense reactions to others, including their actions, are often projections of our own unacknowledged or unresolved psychological issues, fears, and insecurities. His concept of projection suggests that what irritates us in others is likely something within ourselves that we have repressed or failed to acknowledge, making them a mirror for self-understanding. "

I think he is correct there. The constant hitting at LBTG people, immigrants, Muslims, "the regime", "the left", unemployed people, etc. in some internet posts is very revealing.
Since ai is your ultimate arbitrar of truth maybe you should listen to what they have to say and try having an original thought for yourself sometime.

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I have read most of Jung's works and knew at once that your post was pure rubbish. The fastest way to show something of substance was reposting an AI answer. I did not want to waste my time going down your rabbit hole.
But good luck with your deflections- you prove Jung to be right every time.
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Quato wrote: Tue Oct 07, 2025 5:25 pm I have read most of Jung's works and new at once that your post was pure rubbish. The fastest way to show something of substance was reposting an AI answer. I did not want to waste my time going down your rabbit hole.
But good luck with your deflections- you proof Jung to be right every time.
I share your thoughts on reliance on AI. At the same time I wonder how you managed to read Jung whilst stubbornly bypassing the past tense for basic verbs.
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Shit happens. And grammar nazis , too!
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