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Eurovision only without Israel

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Re: Eurovision only without Israel

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ceannairceach wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:22 pm Don’t do that it’s a cheap tactic.

The point is clear.
If it was clear I wouldn't have asked.
To me it looks like you have just posted something that doesn't show what you thinks it does and made an arse of yourself.
But before saying that I thought I'd double check and see whether or not I had missed the point.
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Re: Eurovision only without Israel

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schmittel wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:27 pm If it was clear I wouldn't have asked.
To me it looks like you have just posted something that doesn't show what you thinks it does and made an arse of yourself.
But before saying that I thought I'd double check and see whether or not I had missed the point.
So the oh clever one, explain to my tiny brain exactly why you believe it doesn’t mean what I think it means and detail how I made an arse of myself ?
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Re: Eurovision only without Israel

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ceannairceach wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:31 pm So the oh clever one, explain to my tiny brain exactly why you believe it doesn’t mean what I think it means and detail how I made an arse of myself ?
Do you think that paper somehow disproves accusations against Israel of genocide by orchestrating a famine?

I'm not entirely sure what you think it means, hence why I asked what the point was, and for some reason you won't elaborate.

Now it looks like you're just link dumping.
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Re: Eurovision only without Israel

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schmittel wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 6:37 pm Do you think that paper somehow disproves accusations against Israel of genocide by orchestrating a famine?

I'm not entirely sure what you think it means, hence why I asked what the point was, and for some reason you won't elaborate.

Now it looks like you're just link dumping.
You clearly don’t know what link dumping means.
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Re: Eurovision only without Israel

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ceannairceach wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:39 pm You clearly don’t know what link dumping means.
I thought it meant just dumping a link to infer it proved whatever point you were trying to make, and refusing to elaborate when questioned on it. But maybe I am wrong on that.

Was this the point you were trying to make?
Due to the Israeli siege, people in Gaza live in unfavorable and dangerous conditions. The political events there, where Palestinian refugees, in particular, and Palestinian lives, in general, are concerned, have contributed to widespread unemployment, malnutrition, food insecurity, a lack of income, and a continuous decline in the quality of care for all patient categories
Charming.
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Re: Eurovision only without Israel

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schmittel wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 7:56 pm I thought it meant just dumping a link to infer it proved whatever point you were trying to make, and refusing to elaborate when questioned on it. But maybe I am wrong on that.

Was this the point you were trying to make?



Charming.
Why are you posting that second paragraph in such a way as to make it look like they’re my words ?

Charming indeed.

I’ll not be engaging with you further.
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Re: Eurovision only without Israel

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ceannairceach wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:13 pm Why are you posting that second paragraph in such a way as to make it look like they’re my words ?

Charming indeed.

I’ll not be engaging with you further.
That second paragraph is quoted from the paper you linked, the point of which is "clear". In your words.

As I said, whatever point you were trying to make, that study certainly doesn't back it up.
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Re: Eurovision only without Israel

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NattyO wrote: Thu Sep 18, 2025 5:27 pm It's funny because, regardless of whether one loves, hates, or is completely apathetic about Israel, a failed state it certainly isn't.
Depends what you mean by a failed state. They won't be appearing at the Eurovision soon by the looks of things. Nor might they be allowed to compete for the World Cup nor any sports competition. But that's not failed state status. The Wikipedia definition is as follows:

A failed state is a state that has lost its ability to fulfill fundamental security and development functions, lacking effective control over its territory and borders.

Seeing as the IDF effectively has controlled the West Bank and Gaza since 1967, and they're always at war with Lebanon for decades and are now expanding into Syria, or letting settlers take pieces of the West Bank acre by acre, it doesn't sound like they have much control or stability over where their border is. Israel has always refused to define their own borders, like a failed statelet that doesn't know when to stop or start. They used to have settlements in Gaza until 2006. Then they demolished them. Now they want them back. The wee failed statelet doesn't effectively control their own borders because they won't even say where they are.

Then October 7th happened and the IDF were asleep for over 6 hours for some reason and Hamas were let run riot and carry out numerous atrocities, so there's the lack of security part. They never bother developing Gaza or the West Bank either with their Apartheid regime. These Zionists seem fairly intent on maintaining a wee failed statelet anyway.
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