Israel and Palestine

[Setanta]

The Israeli raided the warehouse of WHO,first bombed it from.the air,sent in paratroopers and arrested the staff,strip searched em and tortured them


The same people who appealed to greater good for action after they left babies to die en-mass in incubators,after the endless mass executions and mass graves at hospitals,hunting down aid workers with drones and mass executions of aid workers.....still think bit of aid will help those trapped there,they need weapons to defend themselves and their aid workers,for ever more after this,long term deployment of nuclear weapons for deterrent aswell essential.....

this should never been allowed happen,the left and liberialism is dead after this for the world,this can never be allowed happen again,it's time for nationlists to assert authority over the public rethoric and stop the endless bending the knee to yanks interest and place each country on equal status....liberialism has been a disaster and ended in genocide supporting regimes across the world acting against their public interest and the criminalisation of our language across europe

[knownunknown]

Yes we know that war is disgusting, horrific and horrendous. You don't need to patronise other posters..

But your twisting of the narrative is grotesque. Israel will finish it, I have no doubt as they have the industrial/ military might to do so and the so far unwavering support of the USA. For God's sake though, would you not do the job humanely and efficiently, whilst we all turn our backs for a few weeks?? Starving people to death and blowing them up with explosives and bullets is unforgivable.

I believe are doing the job as humanely and efficiently as possible. Gaza is one of the most built up areas with the highest density population in the world. It’s not easy to fight an enemy deeply embedded in a population that use their own civilians as human shields, fighting against an army that doesn’t care about their own population. They purposefully fire rockets from hospitals and schools and civilian areas. They purposefully don’t wear any uniforms. They have broken ever war convention under the sun.

How do you stop an enemy that’s firing rockets at you when they have civilians for cover? You evacuate the areas one by one, wipe out their infrastructure and warn the civilians first. That’s what israel are doing.

[Setanta]

I believe are doing the job as humanely and efficiently as possible. Gaza is one of the most built up areas with the highest density population in the world. It’s not easy to fight an enemy deeply embedded in a population that use their own civilians as human shields. They purposefully fire rockets from hospitals and schools and civilian areas. They purposefully don’t wear any uniforms. They have broken ever war convention under the sun.

How do you stop an enemy that’s firing rockets at you when they have civilians for cover? You evacuate the areas one by one, wipe out their infrastructure and warn the civilians first. That’s what israel are doing.

You evacuate the areas one by one, wipe out their infrastructure and warn the civilians first. That’s what israel are doing.

This is a war crime,your so deep in genocide denial,your reduced to talking up war crimes as reasonable

[knownunknown]

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[knownunknown]

The Palestinians need to go to the GHF aid sites to collect their food. There have been families avoiding them for months because Hamas told them not to cooperate with the Israelis or Americans (presumably under penalty of death).

It’s truly sickening to see such images of malnourished children, but to blame Israel while they hand out more than enough calories for every gazan every day is ridiculous. The fault lies with Hamas and Hamas alone.

This guardian article admits as such.

On Tuesday Umm Youssef al-Khalidi was preparing to try her luck at a GHF distribution centre for the first time. She had avoided them for months

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... grips-gaza

Hamas warns Palestinians against cooperating with U.S.-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation

It is strictly forbidden to deal with, work for, or provide any form of assistance or cover to the American organization (GHF) or its local or foreign agents," an interior ministry statement said.

Hamas are happy to see their babies starve so they can use it as a stick to beat Israel with. That’s how fucked up this crowd are. They need to be destroyed.

Gaza (Quds News Network)- The Ministry of Interior and National Security has issued a warning against any form of interaction, cooperation, or engagement with the US- and Israeli-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), its local representatives, or any affiliates operating outside the Gaza Strip, under any title or circumstance. Link

If Hamas ever come to power again in Gaza all the people who took this aid will be decimated for not standing with Hamas. Think about that.
Imagine how scared the civilians must be of Hamas that they won’t go and collect food to feed their malrnurished children.

It said legal measures will be taken against anyone proven to cooperate with this organization, including the imposition of the severest penalties stipulated by applicable national laws.

[knownunknown]

The GHF have requested help from the UN that doesn’t include the controversial aid group, UNRWA, in helping distribute aid in Gaza. The UN have refused repeatedly. The largest humanitarian aid group in the world sides with Hamas over the Palestinian people.

https://passblue.com/2025/07/22/the-gaz ... aborating/

UNRWA

The people of Palestine should be helped unconditionally. It shouldn’t be conditional on Hamas getting first dibs on everything.
No where else in the world is the title of “refugee” inherited. Every other refugee in the world falls under the UNHCR, except the Palestinians who have the Hamas control UNRWA.

For 75 years, UNRWA has sought to undermine Israel, perpetuate conflict

[knownunknown]

Jewish man attacked on Dublin bus. Watch the video the at this link:

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/VYlc3gEfSuY

[PureIsle]

World Health Organization chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Wednesday that Gaza is experiencing mass starvation driven by human actions, specifically a blockade restricting aid from entering the Palestinian enclave.

He made the remarks after over 100 humanitarian organizations issued a warning about widespread hunger in Gaza, where large quantities of food, clean water, and medical supplies remain stalled just outside the Strip.

"I don't know what you would call it other than mass starvation, and it's man-made, and that's very clear," Tedros said during a virtual press conference from Geneva. "This is because of [the] blockade."

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Canada condemns Israel, calls for resumption of UN aid into Gaza

The Canadian government on Wednesday condemned Israel's "military operations" in Gaza, describing them as unacceptable. It also urged the immediate large-scale resumption of UN-led humanitarian aid operations in the besieged enclave.

"Israeli military operations against WHO staff and facilities, World Food Programme aid convoys, & the ongoing killing of Palestinians seeking urgently needed food and water are unacceptable," the Canadian foreign ministry said on X.

"Hunger in Gaza has reached catastrophic levels ... Canada calls for the immediate resumption at scale of UN-led aid," the ministry added.

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Brazil to join South Africa’s genocide case against Israel at ICJ

Brazil is preparing to formally support South Africa's genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) over its brutal war on Gaza, the country’s foreign ministry announced on Wednesday.

South Africa initiated the case in 2023, accusing Israel of breaching the 1948 Genocide Convention through 'military actions' in Gaza that it says have targeted not only Hamas but also civilians, including through strikes on schools, hospitals, and shelters.

In its statement, the Brazilian government condemned what it described as Israeli violations of international law, including "the annexation of territories by force," and voiced "deep indignation" over the violence inflicted on the civilian population.

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Genocide.
Mass starvation.
Sniping of those trying to get a little of what aid is entering Gaza.
According to hospital staff the sniping is being used as some sort of game ... one day left legs shot; the next day right legs; other days head shots.


'Everybody out of step but our Johny' seems to be applicable here.

[knownunknown]

Hamas enjoying luxurious meals while telling their civilians they will be punished if they “interact in anyway” with GHF.

[NewBroom]

I believe are doing the job as humanely and efficiently as possible.

Clearly it is not humane to starve large populations to death nor wreak death and horrible injuries through heavy ordnance.

Clearly no one is going to stop the state of Israel from clearing the Gaza strip.

The question then is can the state of Israel learn from it's own history and apply more humane ways to dispose of these people, rather than let them suffer horribly?

Please address this question.

[knownunknown]

Clearly it is not humane to starve large populations to death nor wreak death and horrible injuries through heavy ordnance.

Clearly no one is going to stop the state of Israel from clearing the Gaza strip.

The question then is can the state of Israel learn from it's own history and apply more humane ways to dispose of these people, rather than let them suffer horribly?

Please address this question.

You’ve haven’t addressed the one question I posed to you, nor have you provided any evidence that Israel is starving Gaza. They are the ones supplying the aid trucks. The heavy ordinance was to destroy Hamas ability to attack Israel. Civilians were warned before to evacuate the areas. Presumable the ones who didn’t were the family of Hamas fanatics who wanted to use the deaths of their own families as a stick to beat Israel with. Maybe they were even threatened with death if they leave their homes by Hamas. There is no fighting an enemy like this on the normal grounds.

Israel are doing everything possible to alleviate suffering as much as possible. If Hamas surrender and release the hostages, and yet Israel still continue, they will lose the support of myself, they will have gone rogue. Until that happens they are justified in continuing this war.

Have you nothing to say about Hamas threatening the starving population if they seek aid from GHF?

[Setanta]

Clearly it is not humane to starve large populations to death nor wreak death and horrible injuries through heavy ordnance.

Clearly no one is going to stop the state of Israel from clearing the Gaza strip.

The question then is can the state of Israel learn from it's own history and apply more humane ways to dispose of these people, rather than let them suffer horribly?

Please address this question.

The question then is can the state of Israel learn from it's own history and apply more humane ways to dispose of these people, rather than let them suffer horribly?

Ita a country of physopaths who spend their waking hours justifying slaughtering children.....they on the brink of a massive explosion of deaths,with 640K on brink of stage 5 famine....most likely by Halloween at present trajectory with no ceasefire,the death toll likely pass 3/4 of a million (potentially break the million mark,if winter descends early/hard,but no upper figure to amount they are willing to kill)


Though Israel will likely agree to a bit part ceasefire ,to let in enough food over 2-3 weeks to prolong those poor people's slow, agonising stravation a bit longer,I remember reading a book on our hunger strikers before,and the suffering they,particularly Francis Hughes,went through was horrendous (but voluntarily),and the fact that Israel is imposing this torment and torture on trapped civilians is pure evil....


They walked away from hostage exchange deals,from hamas leaving the stage deals to strave civilians to death instead,ive nothing but distain for them,and those who support this

[knownunknown]

There is a famine of truth. This suffering exists because Hamas made it so. Hamas deliberately endanger their own people and threaten them not to take aid from GHF.

Aid is flowing through GHF

• Since may over 4,400 aid trucks delivered by Israel carrying flour, baby food, medicine, etc..
• 2,500 tonnes of baby food
• Yesterday 2,000,000 meals handed out by GHF.
• 1.4million packages of aid
• 87 million meals
• 1.8million tonnes of aid

Hamas blocks new aid routes and deliberately fires from them. Over 1,000 people shot dead trying to get aid by Hamas. The media are culpable because they keep repeating lies coming from Hamas. Israel regard any civilian death as a tragedy, while Hamas work to maximize harm to civilians as part of their strategy to undermine Israel.

[PureIsle]

WASHINGTON, July 25 (Reuters) - An internal U.S. government analysis found no evidence of systematic theft by the Palestinian militant group Hamas of U.S.-funded humanitarian supplies, challenging the main rationale that Israel and the U.S. give for backing a new armed private aid operation.
The analysis, which has not been previously reported, was conducted by a bureau within the U.S. Agency for International Development and completed in late June. It examined 156 incidents of theft or loss of U.S.-funded supplies reported by U.S. aid partner organizations between October 2023 and this May.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 025-07-25/

Yet another one of the Zionist lies debunked. But of course that does not impact those Zionist supporters who gleefully support the genocide of the Palestinian people.
They are disgusting excuses for humans.
Despicable creatures all.

It is everybody's fault except those shooting, bombing and starving the population.

The U.N. World Food Program says nearly a quarter of Gaza’s 2.1 million Palestinians face famine-like conditions, thousands are suffering acute malnutrition, and the World Health Organization and doctors in the enclave report starvation deaths of children and others.
The U.N. also estimates that Israeli forces have killed more than 1,000 people seeking food supplies, the majority near the militarized distribution sites of the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), the new private aid group that uses a for-profit U.S. logistics firm run by a former CIA officer and armed U.S. military veterans.

All this time while some 6,000 trucks are lined up with aid waiting to be allowed into Gaza, but prevented from entry by the Zionist butchers.

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[PureIsle]

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-862007

Knesset approves declaratory measure to apply Israeli sovereignty to West Bank

Following a long debate in the plenum, the Knesset approved a declaratory resolution on Wednesday in support of “applying Israeli sovereignty to Judea, Samaria, and the Jordan Valley.”

The vote passed by a large margin, 71-13, with six votes coming from the opposition Yisrael Beytenu party and four from United Torah Judaism, despite the latter having left the coalition and government on July 14.

Opposition parties Yesh Atid and Blue and White did not participate in the vote, and the Democrats, Ra’am, and Hadash-Ta’al voted against the resolution.

"Greater Israel" on the way!

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[PureIsle]

The President of Tunisia, Kaïs Saïd publicly reprimanded the US President Trump's special envoy for the Middle East, Massad Boulos, of Lebanese descent, during his visit to this Arab republic and showed him documented cases of starving children in the Gaza Strip.

These images show a crime against humanity. Is this international law? Laws that crumble more with each passing day. Such a concept no longer makes sense!

said the head of state of the Arab country, who was a professor of international law before his presidency.

[PureIsle]

Pakistan’s FM: Gaza a 'graveyard for international law,' calls UN credibility into question

Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar told the UN Security Council on Wednesday that Gaza represents “a collapse of humanity itself,” warning that the Palestinian cause is a test of the UN’s credibility and the global commitment to justice.

He condemned Israeli strikes on hospitals, schools, and refugee camps as “collective punishment,” and called Gaza a “graveyard for innocent lives and international law alike.”

A few more states are adding their voices to the condemnation of Israel's actions in Gaza. Starmer and Macron among them.
Very very late!
Where were your voices since this genocide began?

Most of it is meaningless as the majority of state contribute to these war crimes.
Heads of those states should be prosecuted for being complicit in war crimes, crimes against humanity, collective punishment, as well as genocide.

[PureIsle]

Extremist Israeli Heritage Minister Amichay Eliyahu, who previously suggested nuking Gaza as a military option, said Thursday that the government is “racing ahead for Gaza to be wiped out,” adding, “Thank God, we are wiping out this evil” and “All Gaza will be Jewish.”

He dismissed concerns over famine in Gaza, stating, “There is no hunger in Gaza... Let the world worry about it.”

They are all beginning to show their true intent and disregard for the lives of others.

Truly despicable excuses for humans.

[PureIsle]

.. and of course the usual type of utterances from Ben Giver ...

Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir:

"A complete halt to 'humanitarian' aid. Full occupation of the Strip. Total annihilation of Hamas. Encouraging emigration. Settlement.

This is not the alternative path — this is the royal road to safely freeing the hostages and achieving victory in the war.

Mr. Prime Minister, give the order!"

[PureIsle]

https://thecradle.co/articles/australia ... d-blockade

Australia, Canada condemn Israel's 'systematic' Gaza aid blockade
Israel is facing mounting accusations of using starvation and aid obstruction as weapons of war in Gaza, as pressure builds over the killing of civilians seeking food

Australia and Canada released statements on 25 July accusing Israel of systematically obstructing humanitarian aid and engineering deadly conditions for civilians in Gaza, where thousands are starving, and Palestinian aid seekers have been killed while attempting to access food and water.

... and yet we have someone on this thread posting Israeli lies and even video of those lies such as
"there is no hunger in Gaza"

Well obvioulsy most of the world disagrees ....... will we see a change in posts on this thread?

I doubt it.

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[Setanta]

.. and of course the usual type of utterances from Ben Giver ...

Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir:

Hope to live long enough to see himself,biden,trump and nethanyu on the gallows for what they done to those poor people

[PureIsle]

BREAKING
Israel has committed a massacre against aid-seeking Palestinians in the Zikim area (north Gaza), killing at least 20 and injuring over 300 people, according to medical sources.

The Cradle 22:26

[PureIsle]

The view of a Holocaust survivor, and that was a year ago, I wonder what his thoughts might be now.

[PureIsle]

Former US special forces veteran, Lieutenant-Colonel Anthony Aguilar, says he routinely witnessed Israeli forces and American colleagues deliberately targeting and killing unarmed Palestinian civilians at GHF anti-humanitarian (death traps) "aid" sites in Gaza.

They're criminal. In my entire career have I never witnessed the level of brutality and use of indiscriminate and unnecessary force against a civilian population—an unarmed, starving, population—I've never witnessed that in all of the places I've been deployed to war, until I was in Gaza, at the hands of the IDF and US contractors.

Without question, I witnessed war crimes. By the Israeli Defense Forces without a doubt, using artillery rounds, mortar rounds, firing tank rounds into unarmed civilians is a war crime.

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Everybody lies except the Israeli butchers - if one were to believe the Israelis and their supporters of genocide!
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[PureIsle]

https://archive.is/2025.07.25-072253/ht ... b6c0910000

To an uncritical eye, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation – backed by Israel and the U.S. – looks like a dizzying success story. After it boasted on Monday that it has already distributed more than 85 million meals and that the day's distribution passed without incident, one might have thought all the earlier problems and the negative reports were just the project's birth pangs.
But a few other variables need to be factored into this equation of success. First and foremost, the equation lacks context and ignores the broader picture. If roughly 2.1 million people live in the Gaza Strip today, it's preferable for them to eat three meals a day, and GHF had been in operation for 56 days as of Monday, how many meals should it have distributed? A simple calculation produces the answer – 353 million.

So less than 25% of required food allowed in, and that amount would be for healthy people. Much much more is required, including specialised foodstuffs, for a starving population.
Of course clean water, housing and medicines are also required for a healthy population, so their near absence is even more severely felt by a starving population.

The amoral Israelis protest they are great because they are so humanitarian!
Despicable non-humans all!

Here is a thought ...... what if ALL aid available was allowed in, and correctly distributed as it was before, there would be little or no incentive to hoard and because everyone has access to sufficient food and medicine the claimed 'black market' would disappear.
BTW, how does a 'black market' operate when the population has no access to the means of earning money to spend?
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