The Epstein files

[Setanta]

You'd wonder what the US establishment is hiding,by refusing to release these files with years and years now ?

They're going to be leaked eventually anyway,but the whole drive by the tik tokers to silence it and cover it up,,raises as many questions as it answers,if there's nothing to see,why not show them and let people make their own mind up on em



The truth,will set you free

[kadman]

Women and children being abused by powerful people who have the money to keep it covered up, and continuing. Its an old , old story.

[knownunknown]

So many u-turns surrounding this story.

First when Biden was in power, it was a nothing burger, a conspiracy theory pushed primarily Trump supporters.

Then during the campaign trail Trump’s cabinet(Pam bondi, Kash Patel) announced they had the files on their desk and all would be released soon!

Then trump gets into office and it becomes a nothing burger again, in fact he’s lambasting a lot of his base for sticking with this story.
Many of his cabinet have not followed suit though, there seems to be trouble in the ranks.

What has been released? The cctv footage from outside the cell(that doesn’t really describe what they said originally, that there was no footage and no chance anyone went near his cell)
Epstein’s phone list has been released.
Jpmorgan lost 280million to law suits while deutsche bank lost 75 million to settlements for the victims.

If video existed, as is claimed, of bribing the world’s elite with footages of them with minors, then the fbi raid would have found it. With so many agents buzzing around the island, it’s impossible to keep a paedophile ring like this quiet for so long, someone would have broke the story. (I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, only that it’s not in the possession of the us authorities). There’s always a whistleblower. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fb ... d-n1041596

So what files are left to release? What is it that people are looking for? The client list.

I believe Musk has seen the client list and that Trump’s name is on it. I doubt he would risk his reputation unless he has seen it. I believe that’s why it’s not being released. If he is on the list that doesn’t mean he had sex with minors though. There is no list of people who had sex with minors.

The following excerpt is from Edwards, the attorney for the victims.

Edwards said he is bound by attorney-client privilege and cannot ethically reveal the names of any of Epstein's alleged associates without permission from his clients. But he said he has seen no indication that Epstein kept a list of those men, or that he made it a practice to use those instances to blackmail or extort the men, even though those men may have been legitimately concerned that Epstein had compromising information that he could use against them.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/jeffrey-epste ... =123805543

The people pushing this still now are the far right side of the republicans, Alex jones, Tucker Carlson et al along with the democrats who always hated trump. Never before have I seen this alignment. The problem is that Jones and Carlson have been consistent for years, that this needs to be investigated, while the dems when in power who called this a nothing burger have now all changed their stance.

[knownunknown]

What is the ongoing theory? I believe it goes something like this. A lot of this is fact and I’ve been careful to note when it isn’t.

Ghislaine Maxwell(Epstein’s procurer of girls who has been sentenced to 20 years) and longtime girlfriend of Epstein had a father who died a media mogul, but had stolen up to 400 million from pension funds that went unaccounted for.

Robert Maxwell, it is alleged, had deep Israeli connections and it is speculated that he worked for the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad. He is alleged to have planted spying devices worldwide for Israeli to spy on governments and corporations.
https://www.martindillon.net/the_assass ... _26176.htm

Nobody yet has traced where Epstein accumulated his money, worth around 600 million at his death, weirdly similar to the figure that Maxwell couldn’t account for.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-did-je ... his-money/

Theory
Robert Maxwell groomed Epstein to be a Mossad agent. Mossad killed Maxwell in the middle of the Atlantic because he tried to extort money from them, he was an fraudster who stole 400million from pension funds. His fortune then went to Ghislaine and Jeffrey. Robert Maxwell had built an extensive intelligence network before his death which Epstein then took over. Epstein begins befriending the world elite, kings, politicians, socilites, etc.. to try to get them into compromising situations with underage girls, then to use this as leverage to gain political power for Mossad. The recordings are in the possession of Mossad upon Epstein’s death.

Seems plausible, the most plausible explanation to explain all the facts that I’ve heard anyway.

[kadman]

Not to forget one of the most traveled flyers on the Lolita express..............................................Bill Clinton.

[jmayo]

What is the ongoing theory? I believe it goes something like this. A lot of this is fact and I’ve been careful to note when it isn’t.

Ghislaine Maxwell(Epstein’s procurer of girls who has been sentenced to 20 years) and longtime girlfriend of Epstein had a father who died a media mogul, but had stolen up to 400 million from pension funds that went unaccounted for.

Robert Maxwell, it is alleged, had deep Israeli connections and it is speculated that he worked for the Israeli intelligence agency, Mossad. He is alleged to have planted spying devices worldwide for Israeli to spy on governments and corporations.
https://www.martindillon.net/the_assass ... _26176.htm

Nobody yet has traced where Epstein accumulated his money, worth around 600 million at his death, weirdly similar to the figure that Maxwell couldn’t account for.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-did-je ... his-money/

Theory
Robert Maxwell groomed Epstein to be a Mossad agent. Mossad killed Maxwell in the middle of the Atlantic because he tried to extort money from them, he was an fraudster who stole 400million from pension funds. His fortune then went to Ghislaine and Jeffrey. Robert Maxwell had built an extensive intelligence network before his death which Epstein then took over. Epstein begins befriending the world elite, kings, politicians, socilites, etc.. to try to get them into compromising situations with underage girls, then to use this as leverage to gain political power for Mossad. The recordings are in the possession of Mossad upon Epstein’s death.

Seems plausible, the most plausible explanation to explain all the facts that I’ve heard anyway.

Ehh you forgot the Rothschilds.

That really does read like a Jewish conspiracy yarn.

Did the Maxwell lads not get any of the loot?

Maybe it is true, but there are too many leaps there?

One thing I would bet on is that Trump was up to his neck in some of those parties much like old Bill.
Although there is another Bill that was linked to him.
A Bill whose wife dropped him like a hot snot around time stuff started coming out.

They will not release info because too many very connected men are involved.

[kadman]

Bill must have got frequent flyer miles as he was on 26 flights supposedly. Along with some of noted hollywood celebs...allegedly...

Do you really think evidence is going to be freely available to support this. Nope. Would anything be done if serious goings on was proved to have taken place. Nope.

This is what separates the plebs from the goings on of the wealthy.....secrecy.

[Setanta]

Bill must have got frequent flyer miles as he was on 26 flights supposedly. Along with some of noted hollywood celebs...allegedly...

Do you really think evidence is going to be freely available to support this. Nope. Would anything be done if serious goings on was proved to have taken place. Nope.

This is what separates the plebs from the goings on of the wealthy.....secrecy.

You'd wonder was there much cross over with the p diddly situation,and the debauchery involved there

[knownunknown]

Ehh you forgot the Rothschilds.

That really does read like a Jewish conspiracy yarn.

You can ask the OP of this thread because we’ve talked about this subject a lot, I’m not into attacking Israel for no reason. Obviously this IS a conspiracy theory, but a theory explains facts. Ghislaine is in prison. Powerful people are involved.

There’s no many odd nuggets of information, here’s another one:

The original prosecutor of the Epstein case back in 2007 struck a secret non prosecution deal with Epstein, which was later ruled illegal, went on to become a member of Trump’s cabinet, Alexander Acosta.

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/12/93426538 ... 0the%20day.

[marhay70]

Bill must have got frequent flyer miles as he was on 26 flights supposedly. Along with some of noted hollywood celebs...allegedly...

Do you really think evidence is going to be freely available to support this. Nope. Would anything be done if serious goings on was proved to have taken place. Nope.

This is what separates the plebs from the goings on of the wealthy.....secrecy.

Well, you'd think that Trump would be only too happy to drop Clinton in the shit, so the fact that he's reluctant to release the Epstein files speaks volumes about who is involved.
We don't know half of what goes on in the upper echelons of "society". There are, and always have been, people who you would think would be strange bedfellows and it suits them that we should continue to think that.

[12gauge dave]

What is it with the rich and powerful seeking out disgusting devious sexual interactions.

Is it a case of when you can buy all the houses cocaine beautiful women and cars you ever wanted you look for new forms of entertainment and highs and it just gets more devious and deplorable as the years go on?

As for the Epstein files, surely Ghislene Maxwell is the one that can spill the beans and put all this to rest if she'd do an exclusive interview? That interview would break the Internet literally.

[marhay70]

What is it with the rich and powerful seeking out disgusting devious sexual interactions.

Is it a case of when you can buy all the houses cocaine beautiful women and cars you ever wanted you look for new forms of entertainment and highs and it just gets more devious and deplorable as the years go on?

As for the Epstein files, surely Ghislene Maxwell is the one that can spill the beans and put all this to rest if she'd do an exclusive interview? That interview would break the Internet literally.

Maybe Ghislaine is not a very good swimmer. Perhaps Epstein himself had such a plan in mind, but "unfortunately", didn't live to fulfil it. That's the other side of dealing with people who control the reins of power in this world.
As for all the debauchery among the rich and powerful, my guess is that they do it because they can, mankind, from time immemorial, has had an unhealthy fascination with the suffering of those who lost on the day. It's all over the history books, even the Bible, where God. for all his power to deprive you of life, prefers to torment you for eternity.

[kadman]

These degenerates do whatever they want to , they dont fear justice because their money insulates them from ever getting any penalties for their misdeeds.

The only thing they fear is their enemies. Thats why bill wont spill the beans on Donald, Bush wont do the dirty on Jimmy, ect,ect,ect.

[knownunknown]

Good video in the politics behind the story. All the U-turns are just insane.

[knownunknown]

About the “missing” evidence from the raid on his townhouse.

FBI Special Agent Kelly Maguire testified in 2019 that during the raid of Epstein's residence, FBI agents found a safe with CDs, computer hard drives, money, jewelry and passports. During her testimony, Maguire said that FBI agents did not have a valid warrant to remove the evidence, so instead, they photographed them.

A few days later, when they returned to obtain the evidence, it was gone, The Telegraph reported.

https://www.newsweek.com/missing-jeffre ... bi-1857766
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... urt-hears/

[Setanta]

About the “missing” evidence from the raid on his townhouse.



https://www.newsweek.com/missing-jeffre ... bi-1857766
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... urt-hears/

That's fairly scandalous stuff.... corruption through and through

[knownunknown]

That's fairly scandalous stuff.... corruption through and through

Yeah, they remembered to bring a safe cracker, heavy duty equipment, camera to record everything and spent two days in an 8 story townhouse searching everywhere. Then they realized they hadn’t a warrant, so they left for a few days, not leaving anyone outside to watch the place.

[Setanta]

Yeah, they remembered to bring a safe cracker, heavy duty equipment, camera to record everything and spent two days in an 8 story townhouse searching everywhere. Then they realized they hadn’t a warrant, so they left for a few days, not leaving anyone outside to watch the place.

That's like something Psni would pull off.....whole thing stinks to feck,why did they not get a upgraded warrant in middle of the search


The videos need released anyway and some names shown off of it

[knownunknown]

6 years ago a documentary was released entitled, “The prince and the paedophile” about the connections between Epstein and prince Andrew.

It was created by Cathy Newman along with the presenter in the following video, Richard Sanders.

He outlines and corroborates his theory,(similar to what I said above). He says he’s got all the files, unredacted.

Very interesting. He says ghislaine was just as bad as Epstein, if not worse.

As for the Epstein files, surely Ghislene Maxwell is the one that can spill the beans and put all this to rest if she'd do an exclusive interview? That interview would break the Internet literally.

Apparently she’s looking for use immunity to testify. Here. Not sure she deserves escaping her punishment, especially after what is revealed in the clip above. Still would love to see that interview.

[ceannairceach]

This may be a stupid question but clearly the list exists as Maxwell is in jail so how can the FBI etc legitimately claim it doesn’t ??

[jmayo]

This may be a stupid question but clearly the list exists as Maxwell is in jail so how can the FBI etc legitimately claim it doesn’t ??

You do know the history of the FBI?
At one stage it was the personal fiefdom of J Edgar Hoover who once he got over his fixation with commies under the bed moved onto targeting civil rights leaders and such.

All the while denying the existence of the mafia and allowing them setup Vegas as a money laundering venture and the klan ran chunks of the country unmolested as they lynched any black man that dared raise their head.
A truly odious individual.

The way Comey was treated shows how much political pressure can be brought to bear at times to shutdown investigations.

[ceannairceach]

Excellent points Jmayo - it’s just baffling how obvious it seems - would she not be now filing for an overturning of her conviction???

I mean she’s clearly as guilty as a puppy sat by a pile of poo but if I was paying a fortune for lawyers I’d be getting them to Al the question about who exactly I trafficked given it’s been rubber stamped that no one was!

Personally I hope she stays in jail but it might make someone ask questions …

[jmayo]

Excellent points Jmayo - it’s just baffling how obvious it seems - would she not be now filing for an overturning of her conviction???

I mean she’s clearly as guilty as a puppy sat by a pile of poo but if I was paying a fortune for lawyers I’d be getting them to Al the question about who exactly I trafficked given it’s been rubber stamped that no one was!

Personally I hope she stays in jail but it might make someone ask questions …

No doubt she knows where all the skeletons are, but she might realise keeping her mouth shut prolongs her life.
I mentioned mafia earlier and they live by same rule.
Do your time and say nothing.

One thing to watch is if she gets seriously ill, I would bet she suddenly dies.

Last thing some very powerful people would want is someone with all those secrets looking for absolution before they kick the bucket.

[Setanta]

More and more curious,the US establishment shuts down the government to stop a vote on Epstein going ahead.....surely this is just rage-baiting conspiracy theorists,or wtf is gone wrong with that country


https://www.commondreams.org/news/congr ... tein-files

[knownunknown]

More and more curious,the US establishment shuts down the government to stop a vote on Epstein going ahead.....surely this is just rage-baiting conspiracy theorists,or wtf is gone wrong with that country


https://www.commondreams.org/news/congr ... tein-files

That’s just the democrats; for 4 years while in power they said there was nothing there. Now it’s a bit rich for them to be doing this.

The deputy AG will be meeting with Maxwell, and her lawyers are saying she will talk.

The only people consistent for 8 +years about the release of these files have been the Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson types. Everyone else at some stage has said “nothing to see here”

https://www.axios.com/2025/07/22/epstei ... oj-meeting