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jmayo wrote: Mon Oct 02, 2023 2:02 pm Just over the weekend saw interview by Parky of Eddie Izzard.
Parky actually asks him if being a transvestite made things harder for him to be comedian or actor.
Izzard said some knew he was transvestite.

Not one fooking mention of transwoman.

There are no transvestites anymore, there are just "women" according to some folks.
Sad times eh ???
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Ah come on who couldn't love Dame Edna ...

Never mind Cissie and Ada.

Although nowadays the old gals would probably be canceled.
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I can’t find the link now sorry but I read that World Swimmimg are scrapping open categories as no trans identifying males signed up.

Of course not - we went from “just want to compete” to “ want unfair advantage” bloody quickly.
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Inclusive employment on the basis of who you ride...why? Why the feck does it matter?
What are all these dumbo women doing all day at work?
Ffs

Also if you are a man and prepared to post photos of yourself on Flickr wearing tasteful lingerie, your chances of inclusion on the SETU workforce shoot up significantly. Best of luck, lads.

For those of us not willing to use compelled speech, there's a special coloured Garda car that can cart us off for hate crimes. Did you ever think you would grow up and the world would be so stupid?

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I never dreamed this world could ever be so captured by a pathetic ideology.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -crew.html

Non binary is not a thing ffs!!!

If men want to wear make up and a skirt to fly a plane fair fcks to them!!!

Why the Hell make up names ???
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New hate figure incoming, Enoch Burke 2.0, Colette Colfer. Maybe now finally the issues of the Burke case can be addressed without all the other shite . I wonder will they attack her just as ferociously? All signs point to yes. This is exactly what made Jordan Peterson rise to fame, he said he would probably use preferred pronouns but he draws the line at compelled speech, just like Colette here. We’re exactly seven years behind with not a lot to look forward to.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/educ ... -unlawful/

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I had a lovely chat with Colette at Let Women Speak in Dublin recently. She is a wonderful, genteel lady with a strong character. I am fully in support of her.
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isha wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:53 am I had a lovely chat with Colette at Let Women Speak in Dublin recently. She is a wonderful, genteel lady with a strong character. I am fully in support of her.
She sounds it! I fear you are right and she is the next "hate" figure for these idiots.

Again - "preferred" pronouns, work away. Compelled speech, penalties for not buying into a delusion - nope.

Trans people existing - why the heck not ? Live and let live. Erasing women specific language, entering women's spaces, ruining the hopes of female athletes - get the fck out.
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PlaneSpeeking wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:46 am I never dreamed this world could ever be so captured by a pathetic ideology.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -crew.html

Non binary is not a thing ffs!!!

If men want to wear make up and a skirt to fly a plane fair fcks to them!!!

Why the Hell make up names ???
I love the paragraph
Meanwhile BA's self-styled 'Pride Hero' Bradley Gibbons, who is non-binary, posted a picture at work in the new dress, after the airline’s non-binary and gender fluid staff won the right to wear the women’s uniforms.
Maybe they should just concentrate on flying people from A to B without losing their bags.

I wonder just how many non-binary and gender fluid they have?

I also hope none of them are pilots because frankly being honest I don't want a delusional eejit in charge of a plane.
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It has begun.

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isha wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:53 am I had a lovely chat with Colette at Let Women Speak in Dublin recently. She is a wonderful, genteel lady with a strong character. I am fully in support of her.
Ditto. She is a very principled person.
Her father installed the cabinets in my parents' sitting room back in 1983.
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isha wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 3:44 pm It has begun.

God Roderic is a smarmy lying dishonest little scumbag.
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jmayo wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 1:45 pm I love the paragraph



Maybe they should just concentrate on flying people from A to B without losing their bags.

I wonder just how many non-binary and gender fluid they have?

I also hope none of them are pilots because frankly being honest I don't want a delusional eejit in charge of a plane.
What does non binary even mean ???

Does he have a fanny ?
or does he have a cock and bollocks ?

Done that's it.

Calling himself non binary is like calling himself "unicorn with a mix of red paint".

People say live and let live - sure he can dress how he wants, but I won't be forced to believe in his delusion, there is still objective truths.
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RogerMoore wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 8:02 pm What does non binary even mean ???

Does he have a fanny ?
or does he have a cock and bollocks ?

Done that's it.

Calling himself non binary is like calling himself "unicorn with a mix of red paint".

People say live and let live - sure he can dress how he wants, but I won't be forced to believe in his delusion, there is still objective truths.
If I damp down my sarcasm … it’s basically idiots who want to reinforce 1950s level male and female stereotypes that my generation rejection from Bolan, Bowie onwards .. so that when they wear pants or do a bit of DIY or have eyeliner on they can say they “feel both male and female”.

Being truthful - it’s made up attention seeking bullshit.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/1 ... by-police/

https://archive.ph/2023.10.06-202650/ht ... by-police/

In response to an FoI request, the CPS revealed that, since 2019, about 1.5 per cent of rape suspects referred for a charging decision were recorded by police as “female” and around 1.2 per cent “unknown”.
The above percentages of people sent forward for consideration on rape charges to the UK crown prosecution service equate to 260 "women" and 209 of "unknown sex". That's to say 469 males claiming to be women or non binary, IE 2.7% of all rapes sent forward to CPS.

Either the tiny tiny victimised minority of trans population has an over representation problem in the area of rape crime or something else is happening.

Personally I think it's something else because, though many won't believe it, I think the truly tiny number of genuinely dysphoric people are people who suffer terribly with a pathological alienation from their body and they suffer in silence. I feel sorry for them. Sex is immutable and it's a terrible burden to bear when reality doesn't reflect ones feelings or hopes. Gender dysphoria must be a nightmare.

I think the 2.7% figure above equates to the 2.8% of all males who were found in a Swedish study in 2005 to be sexually stimulated by cross dressing. This percentage has been replicated in other studies - often the percentage is considerably more.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15859369/


So in my view it is cross dressing paraphilic males who form the incoherent percentage of women/non binary rapists recorded in the UK. NOTE very very few rapes get to the stage of being sent forward to CPS.

In gender theory and under the gender trans umbrella, males who cross dress are included in the categorisation of trans gender. If they say they are women, they are women. We have been called every vile name under the sun for refusing to be bludgeoned into accepting this

As a woman it has been very distressing and bewildering to have witnessed these fetishists pushing their way into female spaces. The internet is absolutely riddled with photos and videos of these utterly disturbing porn-addled men who believe they are entitled to be called women. The proliferation of them is mind boggling. Unbelievable numbers.

I will never give up female spaces, representation, voices, sports, words to these bullying fetishists. I hope more of the insufferable "allies" wise up and soon.
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Confusing sex with gender (from all sides) really muddies discourse. Old Top of the Pops last night with Boy George looking gorgeous. That is an individual expressing a feminine gender... who is biologically male. No need for surgery or hormones to express gender.

People saying they were born the wrong gender mean they're unhappy with their biological sex. It's so dishonest to blur the line between the two.
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Fugue wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 1:07 pm Confusing sex with gender (from all sides) really muddies discourse. Old Top of the Pops last night with Boy George looking gorgeous. That is an individual expressing a feminine gender... who is biologically male. No need for surgery or hormones to express gender.

People saying they were born the wrong gender mean they're unhappy with their biological sex. It's so dishonest to blur the line between the two.
Marilyn was an aul ride back in the day too tbh!!!
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I won't use the phrase "gender dysphoria" (not having a dig at critics who do, it's the official name after all) - it's sex dysphoria. You can express any gender. These are folk who are distressed by their sexed bodies.
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PlaneSpeeking wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:54 pm Marilyn was an aul ride back in the day too tbh!!!
And a gender critical voice.
Like so many children, five-year-old me was confused by Boy George, and when it was explained that he was a man, I thought no more of it. I didn't think he "should" be a woman.
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Fugue wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:10 pm I won't use the phrase "gender dysphoria" (not having a dig at critics who do, it's the official name after all) - it's sex dysphoria. You can express any gender. These are folk who are distressed by their sexed bodies.
True.

It's hard to be clear about everything in this crazy happening
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Fugue wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 1:07 pm Confusing sex with gender (from all sides) really muddies discourse. Old Top of the Pops last night with Boy George looking gorgeous. That is an individual expressing a feminine gender... who is biologically male. No need for surgery or hormones to express gender.

People saying they were born the wrong gender mean they're unhappy with their biological sex. It's so dishonest to blur the line between the two.
Sex applies to people and gender to words. This whole ideology is muddying the waters by creating a new definition of the word gender. Just look at things like “gender reveal parties” in which you discover the sex of the baby. Gender is used on forms and banners where people are uncomfortable using the word sex.

Expressing one’s sex is a social construction, does a woman who doesn’t wear make up become a man? Does a man with testosterone deficiency or a high pitched voice become a woman? That’s not the society I’d like to live in but seems to be the one we’re shaping.

Also in the middle east, are you not a woman without wearing the burka? These are the insane consequences of accepting this grotesque and ridiculous word into our lexicon while allowing it to shape society itself.

It’s a bait and switch, proponents of this ideology regularly harp back to the differences between gender and sex while assuming them as the same thing in the next breath, while also adding credence to the ideas of stereotypes.

These gender norms, so they tell us, are actually harmful. This shite adds zero value to the world and muddies conversations about sexual identity.

World health organization :

Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed.

Gender is hierarchical and produces inequalities that intersect with other social and economic inequalities.

Gender inequality and discrimination faced by women and girls puts their health and well-being at risk.

Harmful gender norms – especially those related to rigid notions of masculinity – can also affect boys and men’s health and wellbeing negatively

As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time.
https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender#tab=tab_1

This shite is contradictory and makes no sense, the sooner we call out the language used the better.
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knownunknown wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 3:54 pm Sex applies to people and gender to words. This whole ideology is muddying the waters by creating a new definition of the word gender. Just look at things like “gender reveal parties” in which you discover the sex of the baby. Gender is used on forms and banners where people are uncomfortable using the word sex.

Expressing one’s sex is a social construction, does a woman who doesn’t wear make up become a man? Does a man with testosterone deficiency or a high pitched voice become a woman? That’s not the society I’d like to live in but seems to be the one we’re shaping.

Also in the middle east, are you not a woman without wearing the burka? These are the insane consequences of accepting this grotesque and ridiculous word into our lexicon while allowing it to shape society itself.

It’s a bait and switch, proponents of this ideology regularly harp back to the differences between gender and sex while assuming them as the same thing in the next breath, while also adding credence to the ideas of stereotypes.

These gender norms, so they tell us, are actually harmful. This shite adds zero value to the world and muddies conversations about sexual identity.

World health organization :



https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender#tab=tab_1

This shite is contradictory and makes no sense, the sooner we call out the language used the better.
So bullshit stereotypes that we abandoned years ago and these idiots want to bring back and reinforce to a point where kids are maimed??

Progress. Not.
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More than 30 million titles of “academic” articles, from the years 1945–2001, were surveyed for occurrences of the wordssex andgender. At the beginning of this period, uses ofgender were much rarer than uses ofsex, and often used in the sense of a grammatical category. By the end of this period, uses ofgender outnumbered uses ofsex in the social sciences, arts, and humanities. Within the natural sciences, there was now more than 1 use ofgender for every 2 uses ofsex. The beginnings of this change in usage can be traced to Money's introduction of the concept of “gender role” in 1955 (J. Money, 1955). However, the major expansion in the use of gender followed its adoption by feminists to distinguish the social and cultural aspects of differences between men and women (gender) from biological differences (sex). Since then, the use of gender has tended to expand to encompass the biological, and a sex/gender distinction is now only fitfully observed.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.10 ... 3.56281.0d
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Money was a comforter of paedophiles. And the postmodern feminists who embraced gender theory were as idiotic as the recent ones who en masse put knitted vaginas on their heads and thought it was a cool riff.
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if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual, then I would not call it pathological in any way- John Money.
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There’s an awful lot of these turn out to attack women and children. Curious….

And that used to be a slur thrown at gay people - which is completely untrue.

Straight men with a fetish for dressing up as women - there’s where you want to watch.
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