Chances of a broadly acceptable political party

[Setanta]

None of this are examples of discrimination today.
Talking about republicans from a hundred years ago? The catholic church and unmarried mothers? Move to the new century.

The state is built on discrimination,there's still 100+ republicans imprisoned in portlaise,the laws to imprison republicans on word of a political appointed guard are still there,was before last election,rte (state media service) brought out a TV show to explain to people reasons to not vote republican.....all my adult life,I've listened to the establishment and the media demonising single mothers and listing them top of bill to be targeted for welfare cuts,when they mostly have feck all to their name....this isn't old news by any metric



The government brings in migrants and dumps them on the streets here as a stop gap to herding them into government supporters ipas centres where they can profit off them,and offer them feck all in terms of improving their life,only another group for the establishment to bear down on and destroy their lives.....the notion lefties have,there isn't discrimiation in the state,just about sums up how everyone here has been propagandised to accept how bad things are.....the taoiseach literaly lead the charge of European leaders defending the EU in their master level cock up of a trade deal to prop up the US military industrial complex

[Bubblypop]

Can you give me your definition of discrimination first please? So I know we are in agreement. I would have thought it was self-explanatory.

Maybe discrimination and actual discrimination have different meanings?

I thought I did already, tbh. We all know what discrimination is
The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of ethnicity, age, sex, or disability.
The claims in this thread have suggested that Irish people are discriminated against, where is the proof of that?

[Bubblypop]

The state is built on discrimination,there's still 100+ republicans imprisoned in portlaise,the laws to imprison republicans on word of a political appointed guard are still there,was before last election,rte (state media service) brought out a TV show to explain to people reasons to not vote republican.....all my adult life,I've listened to the establishment and the media demonising single mothers and listing them top of bill to be targeted for welfare cuts,when they mostly have feck all to their name....this isn't old news by any metric



The government brings in migrants and dumps them on the streets here as a stop gap to herding them into government supporters ipas centres where they can profit off them,and offer them feck all in terms of improving their life,only another group for the establishment to bear down on and destroy their lives.....the notion lefties have,there isn't discrimiation in the state,just about sums up how everyone here has been propagandised to accept how bad things are.....the taoiseach literaly lead the charge of European leaders defending the EU in their master level cock up of a trade deal to prop up the US military industrial complex

Sorry, I literally cannot discuss this with someone who thinks that Republicans in prison because they broke the law are discriminated against.
Maybe paedophiles in prison are also being discriminated against?

[Setanta]

Sorry, I literally cannot discuss this with someone who thinks that Republicans in prison because they broke the law are discriminated against.
Maybe paedophiles in prison are also being discriminated against?

literally cannot discuss this with someone who thinks that Republicans in prison because they broke the law are discriminated against

What law did they break??...is this law enacted to imprison republicans at the word of a government appointed guard?


Was this particular law to been dismantled under the free staters precious GFA and has it been repeatedly critised by amnesty international??



Actually who else in the world can be imprisoned with zero evidence only the word of a police officer appointed to their position by a government minister??

[knownunknown]

I thought I did already, tbh. We all know what discrimination is
The unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of ethnicity, age, sex, or disability.
The claims in this thread have suggested that Irish people are discriminated against, where is the proof of that?

Fair enough as it relates to the thread then scrapping means testing for asylum seekers is not fair on Irish citizens. Also the fact that the government will be held accountable for not housing them is also discrimination against Irish people, when the same is not true of Irish citizens.

It is also discrimination that people can come here and avail of our services yet we don’t generally have the same options to go to other countries(outside of the EU) and do the same(some yes, most no).

If Enoch Burke wanted to claim asylum somewhere, where could he go? (Rhetorical).

[kadman]

I dont know any irish person that has had money from the government for car repairs, tyres and the like. But if i come across one i will be sure to let you know. I would say this would qualify as discrimination against irish people. Where in the world could you land and get money for such things, i dont know.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid ... html[quote]

The minister for social protection has defended emergency payments to some Ukrainian refugees for car repairs.

Dara Calleary said such additional needs payments are available to anyone in the state and any applications for such payments are subject to rigorous scrutiny and that their use for car repairs is not widespread.

He was responding to claims from Independent Ireland TD Ken O’Flynn who told the Dáil last week that some Beneficiaries of Temporary Protection from Ukraine had received sums ranging from €400 to €7,000 for vehicle repairs, including the purchase of new tyres. He did not say how widespread the issue is.

[Quato]

Stop talking shyte. There is money available for Paddy and Biddy, too:

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/s ... s-payment/


https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/s ... e-schemes/

[kadman]

I have just come across this, and never heard of it before, maybe someone can enlighten me further.

Benefits of Ireland 71 Lakh Scheme 2023

The Ireland 71 Lakh Scheme 2023 provides significant financial support to non-Irish citizens willing to reside permanently on Ireland's beautiful island communities. In return, they are expected to contribute to the local societies and economies.

The program aims to incentivize people to relocate to Ireland's 30 islands by providing a grant of €80,000 (approx. INR 71 lakh). This is to boost declining populations on these islands.
The scheme focuses on reversing losses in Ireland's island communities, restoring local culture, businesses and sustainability.
The grant money can be used for housing, renovation, transportation, setting up a business and other migration-related expenses.
Successful applicants become eligible for Irish citizenship after 5 years of residence under this scheme. They will have to renounce their existing citizenships.
Registrations for the program are set to open on July 1, 2023. Interested individuals can apply within the stipulated time period.
Applicants must own a property on any of Ireland's 30 offshore islands to qualify. The grant will help cover the cost of home purchase or renovation.
The €80,000 grant must be used for the stated purpose of relocation under this scheme and cannot be utilized otherwise.

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[Quato]

You are posting more shite. The sheme is open to Irish people as well. You just post any racist xenophobic bullshit here, don't you?

https://www.thejournal.ie/does-the-71-l ... 2-Feb2024/

[kadman]

I never knew about this at all, so i posted so that some one could educate me, thats it, nothing else. If i had another reason for posting i would make it quite clear.
Thanks very much for your very insulting answer.

[Quato]

Bullshit!
This thing has been around for some time. You could have easily checked it out yourself with the google. You know very well why you posted it!
You simply engage in dog whistling!

[kadman]

I dont know how many ways to say this, but i have only come across this and was curious to know more information about it . End of.

[Bubblypop]

What law did they break??...is this law enacted to imprison republicans at the word of a government appointed guard?


Was this particular law to been dismantled under the free staters precious GFA and has it been repeatedly critised by amnesty international??



Actually who else in the world can be imprisoned with zero evidence only the word of a police officer appointed to their position by a government minister??

Nobody is in prison on merely the word of a senior guard. It is one piece of evidence in anti terrorism legislation. It does not sentence people on its own.
Please educate yourself on legislation, if you're going to argue against it.

[Bubblypop]

Fair enough as it relates to the thread then scrapping means testing for asylum seekers is not fair on Irish citizens. Also the fact that the government will be held accountable for not housing them is also discrimination against Irish people, when the same is not true of Irish citizens.

It is also discrimination that people can come here and avail of our services yet we don’t generally have the same options to go to other countries(outside of the EU) and do the same(some yes, most no).

If Enoch Burke wanted to claim asylum somewhere, where could he go? (Rhetorical).

Everyone can claim asylum anywhere. If Enoch wants to claim asylum he is legally entitled to do so.
Why do you think the government isn't accountable for housing Irish people? That's nonsense.

[Bubblypop]

I dont know any irish person that has had money from the government for car repairs, tyres and the like. But if i come across one i will be sure to let you know. I would say this would qualify as discrimination against irish people. Where in the world could you land and get money for such things, i dont know.

Emergency payments are available for everyone entitled to them from their welfare officer.

[Bubblypop]

I have just come across this, and never heard of it before, maybe someone can enlighten me further.

Benefits of Ireland 71 Lakh Scheme 2023

The Ireland 71 Lakh Scheme 2023 provides significant financial support to non-Irish citizens willing to reside permanently on Ireland's beautiful island communities. In return, they are expected to contribute to the local societies and economies.

The program aims to incentivize people to relocate to Ireland's 30 islands by providing a grant of €80,000 (approx. INR 71 lakh). This is to boost declining populations on these islands.
The scheme focuses on reversing losses in Ireland's island communities, restoring local culture, businesses and sustainability.
The grant money can be used for housing, renovation, transportation, setting up a business and other migration-related expenses.
Successful applicants become eligible for Irish citizenship after 5 years of residence under this scheme. They will have to renounce their existing citizenships.
Registrations for the program are set to open on July 1, 2023. Interested individuals can apply within the stipulated time period.
Applicants must own a property on any of Ireland's 30 offshore islands to qualify. The grant will help cover the cost of home purchase or renovation.
The €80,000 grant must be used for the stated purpose of relocation under this scheme and cannot be utilized otherwise.

Did you find this article on Ireland's 71 Lakh Scheme informative? If yes, download the Testbook App now to amp up your General Knowledge. Get access to the best-in-class learning resources, expert coaching, mock tests, quizzes, and outperform your competition in govt. exams.

Open to Irish citizens.

[kadman]

Like i said on an earlier post, I was not aware of that scheme at all, its the first time i came across it. I have a family member that might benefit from something like that. I must look into it further, it could open up all sorts of possibilities for them.

[kadman]

Turns out there is no such scheme. The government has a 5 year action plan called Living Islands, but its in no way related to the post made earlier. Living Islands Action Plan 2023-2026 to revitalise the Islands which is a good thing.
So much for retiring to life in the atlantic.

[Guburnor]

Bullshit!
This thing has been around for some time. You could have easily checked it out yourself with the google. You know very well why you posted it!
You simply engage in dog whistling!

MOD NOTE: Rather than accusing posters of dog whistling, you could have equally easily refuted the post with the results you found on the google. That would make for a healthier discussion.

[ceannairceach]

Everyone can claim asylum anywhere. If Enoch wants to claim asylum he is legally entitled to do so.
Why do you think the government isn't accountable for housing Irish people? That's nonsense.

It’s genuinely chilling that you believe that.

[ceannairceach]

MOD NOTE: Rather than accusing posters of dog whistling, you could have equally easily refuted the post with the results you found on the google. That would make for a healthier discussion.

Have to comment - that’s the moderation here? Wow!!

No recriminations, just a constructive suggestion for future posting. Absolutely wonderful to see compared to ahem other sites…. !!!

Well done!

[Setanta]

Nobody is in prison on merely the word of a senior guard. It is one piece of evidence in anti terrorism legislation. It does not sentence people on its own.
Please educate yourself on legislation, if you're going to argue against it.

Nobody is in prison on merely the word of a senior guard. It is one piece of evidence in anti terrorism legislation. It does not sentence people on its own.
Please educate yourself on legislation, if you're going to argue against it.

Nobody is in prison on merely the word of a senior guard

Does this law,allow for this to happen,as a burden of proof

Please educate yourself on legislation, if you're going to argue against it.

As yous the self annointed expert,is the above true or false as regards burden of proof required to convict/ imprison someone??,and where else in the world is this type of carry on acceptable

[Bubblypop]

It’s genuinely chilling that you believe that.

Which part? Both are true. Don't know why you find the truth chilling

[Bubblypop]

Does this law,allow for this to happen,as a burden of proof




As yous the self annointed expert,is the above true or false as regards burden of proof required to convict/ imprison someone??,and where else in the world is this type of carry on acceptable

As I said, no one is convicted on the word of a senior Garda.
It is one part of evidence that may be given in an anti terrorism case.
Please educate yourself on legislation, if you are going to argue against it.

[Setanta]

As I said, no one is convicted on the word of a senior Garda.
It is one part of evidence that may be given in an anti terrorism case.
Please educate yourself on legislation, if you are going to argue against it.

the word of a senior Garda.
It is one part of evidence that may be given in an anti terrorism case

Is the word of a government appointed senior guard,enough to secure conviction under this legislation?.....your refusal to answer this question,would under this wrongful legislation would allow us to infer an answer.....


Should we do this,to avoid yous the embarrassment of admission? ......actual come to think of it,are republican historical parades,still subject to Garda interference and observation,even in insolated rural areas,where crowd control isn't necessary.....is this another area of discrimination,people here are forced to bow down and accept unquestioned?