Israel and Palestine

[PureIsle]

It would be amusing in other circumstances to see how some like to ignore all the statements of the Israeli Knesset members on their intent to clear Gaza of Palestinians, so they can spout the lack of 'intent'.
Do they really believe this BS they spout?
I have difficulty believing they do, but they are consistant.
Of course the intent to annex the whole of Palestine is also clearly stated, as well as expulsion or death of all Palestinians.

Genocide is the “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such.”

So given the destruction and death in Gaza and the expressed intent, there can be no other conclusion than "genocide", regardless what some IOF-embedded soldier thinks.

All the while these people dismiss everything which does not support their expressed opinion, regardless how many countries, aid agencies, NGOs, and other organisations, in addition to the many videos emanating from Gaza, tell us what is really happening.

They 'prefer' to believe Israeli lies, just as they have done for years, including systematic rape, beheaded babies, babies burned in ovens etc. etc. all alegedly done by Palestinian "terrorists".

Israel has become so abhorrent to the vast majority of the world that they have turned against them.
It is my hope that Israel implodes from its own despicable behaviour, but they seem intent of forming their "Greater Israel" and are prepared to bomb and kill any and all who get in their way.

What some seem determined to forget is, that as the occupation army, Israel is responsible for all events in the occupied territory.
But of course Israel is the permanent victim and everyone but Israel is to blame for their atrocities.

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[PureIsle]

https://thecradle.co/articles/netherlan ... lestinians

Netherlands bans Ben Gvir, Smotrich for supporting ‘ethnic cleansing’ in Gaza
The two Israeli ministers have called for preventing aid from reaching Gaza, as well as reoccupying and resettling the strip

The Netherlands has barred Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and National Security Minister Itamar Ben Gvir from entering the country, over their incitement of violence against Palestinians and their calls for starving the people of Gaza.

In a letter to lawmakers cited by local media, Dutch Foreign Minister Caspar Valdekamp said the move came “because they have repeatedly incited violence by settlers against the Palestinian population and … called for ethnic cleansing in the Gaza Strip.”

The foreign minister said the two ministers “persistently advocated for the expansion of illegal settlements.”

Ben Gvir has previously said that there are “no uninvolved civilians” in Gaza, and has consistently stood against any ceasefire deal. He also continues to reject any efforts to expand the flow of desperately needed aid into Gaza.

Smotrich also continues to call for the flattening of occupied West Bank villages, as Gaza has been flattened.

Both ministers openly support the reoccupation and illegal settlement in Gaza. Last year, Smotrich said it would be “justified and moral” to starve the entire population of Gaza.

According to some of course these despicable characters never uttered a bad word or encouraged anyone to do anything bad to Palestinian civilians.
Yeah, right!


I note Starmer called an emergency cabinet meeting and issued a "strong warning" to Israel that unless Israel changes what it is doing the UK will recognise the Palestinian state - obvioously a huge threat to the Israeli government!

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[PureIsle]

Turkiye announces 6 measures against Israel

Turkiye announced six measures against Israel, in line with commitments made earlier this month by a group of countries (Hague Group) aiming to halt the genocidal war on Gaza.

The measures include suspending military exports to Israel, blocking the transit of Israeli weapons through Turkish ports and airspace, and reviewing all public contracts to ensure that state institutions and pension funds do not support Israeli companies or the occupation of Palestinian territories.

Turkiye also pledged to support efforts to apply universal jurisdiction and back International Criminal Court (ICC) warrants seeking accountability for alleged war crimes.

The Cradle

Even Turkey has turned against Israel.

[knownunknown]

I like France’s approach, it seems the most reasonable. They have agreed to recognize Palestine should they release the hostages and surrender.

[Setanta]

I like France’s approach, it seems the most reasonable. They have agreed to recognize Palestine should they release the hostages and surrender.

Help set up another sabra and shatlia.....at least the left are consistent in not learning from.mistakes and still believe in hippy dippy nonsense



One would have to ask,why Israel rejected an offer from hamas to leave the stage though

[PureIsle]

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/202 ... 7ba06f0000

Netanyahu Proposes to Annex Parts of Gaza in Attempt to Appease Far-right Minister if Hamas Does Not Agree to a Deal
Under the proposed plan, Israel will gradually begin annexing parts of Gaza if Hamas does not agree to a cease-fire. Netanyahu told ministers the plan is supported by the Trump administration

According to the plan Netanyahu is expected to present, areas in the buffer zone will be annexed first, followed by areas in the northern Strip adjacent to the Israeli cities of Sderot and Ashkelon.

The process will continue gradually until the entire Strip is annexed. According to details presented by Netanyahu in talks with ministers, the plan has received approval from the Trump administration.

Is it clear enough yet?

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[knownunknown]

Delete, no longer required.

[knownunknown]

Good news! Great news. The Arab countries are now also putting pressure on Hamas to surrender so that the 2 state solution can be revitalized.

Arab countries including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt joined calls Tuesday for Hamas to disarm and end its rule of Gaza, in a bid to end the devastating war in the Palestinian territory.

Seventeen countries plus the European Union and Arab League threw their weight behind a seven-page text agreed at a United Nations conference on reviving the two-state solution for Israel and the Palestinians.

"In the context of ending the war in Gaza, Hamas must end its rule in Gaza and hand over its weapons to the Palestinian Authority, with international engagement and support, in line with the objective of a sovereign and independent Palestinian State," said the declaration

Hamas can surrender and allow the PLO who administer the West Bank to take control of Gaza and they will get their statehood.

What do Hamas care about? Statehood or killing Jews? We will see.

Arab world tells Hamas to lay down arms and end rule of Gaza

For the first time, Arab countries and those in the Middle East condemn Hamas, condemn October 7, call for the disarmament of Hamas, call for its exclusion from Palestinian governance, and clearly express their intention to normalize relations with Israel in the future

Finally this is coming to an end. If only they had done this much sooner. The people who will benefit the most are the Palestinians. If Israel don’t agree, then I’d be happy to see them nuked to smithereens. But of course they will agree because it’s what they’ve wanted all along, normalized relations and peace.

The only thing standing in the way of Palestinian statehood now is Hamas, just as it has been all along.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/ ... rule-gaza/
https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/2 ... -gaza-rule

[PureIsle]

Israel is dead set against a two state solution. It is not an acceptable outcome for Israel.
If Hamas is foolish enough to do this then Palestine is forever lost.

How many of those states who now make a 'demand' of Hamas, have helped the Palestinian people in the last 20 months?
None?

They either stood by and watched the genocide or actively helped Israel.

[Setanta]

Israel is dead set against a two state solution. It is not an acceptable outcome for Israel.
If Hamas is foolish enough to do this then Palestine is forever lost.

How many of those states who now make a 'demand' of Hamas, have helped the Palestinian people in the last 20 months?
None?

They either stood by and watched the genocide or actively helped Israel.

The west bank was agreed to be handed over to palestinians in 2000,it's a quarter of century overdue being handed over,to mark this particular milestone, Israel passed a law to expel rest of palestinians and take over the remaining west bank



A two state solution won't work,without a military to underpin and defend palestinians,this type of wholesale genocide can never be allowed happen again

[PureIsle]

The west bank was agreed to be handed over to palestinians in 2000,it's a quarter of century overdue being handed over,to mark this particular milestone, Israel passed a law to expel rest of palestinians and take over the remaining west bank



A two state solution won't work,without a military to underpin and defend palestinians,this type of wholesale genocide can never be allowed happen again

We heard that before ..... 'never again' and yet here we are.

[Setanta]

We heard that before ..... 'never again' and yet here we are.

That's because the left got too much say in the world,it was obvious from earliest days of this genocide,that Israel was bent on wiping out the population there,and those people needed weapons for self defense,every bit as much as aid


Liberialism is dead from here on out,it's time nationlists brought a bit of commonsense and community building back into the world....how anyone can argue against the right to self defense,with hundreds of thousands dead,sums up everything wrong with liberialism..... A Hezbollah for Gaza,and the west bank is what's needed,they've had decades to make two state solution work,and failed,it's time for a military oversight of it,and there's noone in the world come to aid of palestinians, they'll have to do it themselves IMHO

[knownunknown]

Steve Witkoff, part of Trump’s special envoy, visits Gaza and details what he saw.

[knownunknown]

90% of aid trucks sent into Gaza fail to arrive at their destinations according to the UN.

That is over 87% of all UN-dispatched aid trucks being intercepted and looted.

Over 23 thousand tons of aid, nearly all of it food as per the trackers's own statistics.

https://app.un2720.org/tracking/intercepted

[ceannairceach]

90% of aid trucks sent into Gaza fail to arrive at their destinations according to the UN.



https://app.un2720.org/tracking/intercepted

Yea because Hamas have them to sell for weapon and arms money.

[PureIsle]

That's because the left got too much say in the world,it was obvious from earliest days of this genocide,that Israel was bent on wiping out the population there,and those people needed weapons for self defense,every bit as much as aid


Liberialism is dead from here on out,it's time nationlists brought a bit of commonsense and community building back into the world....how anyone can argue against the right to self defense,with hundreds of thousands dead,sums up everything wrong with liberialism..... A Hezbollah for Gaza,and the west bank is what's needed,they've had decades to make two state solution work,and failed,it's time for a military oversight of it,and there's noone in the world come to aid of palestinians, they'll have to do it themselves IMHO

I see our esteemed president got around to calling for military intervention in Gaza.
Just as the Knesset decide to annex the place.
Too little too late Micky-D!

[Setanta]

I see our esteemed president got around to calling for military intervention in Gaza.
Just as the Knesset decide to annex the place.
Too little too late Micky-D!

Things are badly fcked,when micheal-D,him with one foot in the grave,is the only politician offering achievable solutions to ending a genocide


The whole world effectively sat on its hands and offered no assistance of material benefit to the Gazans except a few rockets by the houtis and similar by Hezbollah....there's a lesson in that for supporters of liberialism...

[PureIsle]

I just read the following

The entire Al Jazeera crew in Gaza City has been assassinated by Israel, including reporters and cameramen.

They are:

Reporter: Anas al-Sharif
Reporter: Mohammad Qureiqaa
Cameraman: Ibrahim Zaher
Cameraman: Moamen Alaywa
Crew driver: Mohammad Nofal

-The Cradle

As yet I have no other confirmation.

[Dubit10]

Sky News reporting the same. Is there any end to their evil.

[PureIsle]

Tass News Agency:-

Four Al Jazeera journalists including correspondent Anas al-Sharif have been killed in an Israeli air strike on Gaza City, Qatar’s TV channel said.

The journalists were in a tent for media workers outside al-Shifa Hospital when the strike using a drone was launched minutes before midnight local time (GMT +3), killing seven people.

In turn, the Israel Defense Forces said it had struck “the terrorist Anas Al-Sharif, who posed as a journalist for the Al Jazeera network.” According to the Israeli military, he led a terrorist cell in the radical Palestinian movement and “was responsible for advancing rocket attacks against Israeli civilians and IDF troops.”

[Jequ0n]

Tass News Agency:-

Even it this was true it still confirms that Israel is not interested in keeping up appearances of wanting to achieve peace for its citizens.

[ceannairceach]

I just read the following


-The Cradle

As yet I have no other confirmation.

Never mind, I’m sure the communique from the Hamas leadership will be in your inbox soon.

[PureIsle]

Netanyahu said in an interview with the I24 TV channel that he was fulfilling a
“historic and spiritual mission”
and said he felt its connection to the concept of
“Greater Israel.”
The term "Greater Israel" arose after the Six-Day War of 1967 to refer to Israel and the territories it had just occupied: East Jerusalem, the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, the Sinai Peninsula, and the Golan Heights and a lot more.

So it should be obvious to everyone now that no neighbouring country is safe from these murdering excuses for humanity.
Those countries who might consider themselves 'safe' because they have "agreements" with Israel should have a re-think. Your turn is coming if not already here.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... er-israel/

and at the same time moves are afoot for thousands more settler buildings and the clear intent to oust the Palestinians from their homeland.

Far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich announces that he plans to approve tenders to build more than 3,000 housing units in the highly controversial E1 settlement project between Jerusalem and Ma’ale Adumim in the West Bank, saying the move “buries the idea of a Palestinian state.”

The project has been frozen for decades amid fierce opposition from the international community, who fear the new settlement neighborhood would block a contiguous, viable Palestinian state.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_ ... ian-state/

[PureIsle]

Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich:

– “After decades of international pressure and freezes, we are breaking conventions and connecting Ma’ale Adumim to Jerusalem. This is Zionism at its best — building, settling, and strengthening our sovereignty in the Land of Israel.”

– “Approval of construction plans in E1 buries the idea of a Palestinian state and continues the many steps we are taking on the ground as part of the de facto sovereignty plan that we began implementing with the establishment of the government."

What many have been warning against is really coming into the open now as the Israelis discard any semblance of trying to live peacefully with their neighbours or respect the territories of others.

Yet some still defend Israel's right to murder, kill, commit war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide, all because they profess a religious conviction that their god told some ancestor or other that they could have the land.
What a load of bollocks!
Even if they all believe it - which is highly unlikely!

It is well past time those butchers got a taste of their own medicine!

Expel them from Palestine. There is lots of space in the USA for their 'great friends'.

[PureIsle]

Israel in talks to expel Palestinians to Indonesia, Somaliland, Uganda, South Sudan & Libya: Channel 12

The Hebrew Channel 12 revealed that Israel is conducting talks with five countries—Indonesia, Somaliland, Uganda, South Sudan, and Libya—about the possibility of forcibly resettling Palestinians from Gaza.

According to a diplomatic source cited by the channel, some countries have become more open than before to receiving so-called ‘voluntary migration’ from the Strip, pointing in particular to Indonesia and Somaliland. However, no concrete decisions have been reached.

This comes as part of Israel’s ongoing attempt to erase Palestinians from their land through displacement schemes disguised as “voluntary migration.”