Judge releases Barbie- cites grave concerns

[knownunknown]

I disagree here. There is a reason why specific facilities are segregated by sex. I know what I’d do if I had free access within a hen house like that, and I wouldn’t be the only one.
Why take that extra risk and increase the security measures at the facility just to suit someone’s fantasy, instead of just locking them up in a facility that is more appropriately equipped to deal with this level of aggression? It’s illogical.

We have sex separated prisons for a reason. Going by the logic of bubbly’s argument we should just have one prison to suit everyone.

15% of female prisoners are transgender in the US while the percentage of male prisoners who are trans is considerably lower. There is appeal for male prisoners to call themselves female just to get better conditions while this doesn’t work in the other direction.

[Jequ0n]

We have sex separated prisons for a reason. Going by the logic of bubbly’s argument we should just have one prison to suit everyone.

15% of female prisoners are transgender in the US while the percentage of male prisoners who are trans is considerably lower. There is appeal for male prisoners to call themselves female just to get better conditions while this doesn’t work in the other direction.

I identify as a 10 year old, so I want to be placed in the nearest school please. We will all be supervised by school staff anyway, so I don’t see why presence there would be an issue.

[Bubblypop]

We have sex separated prisons for a reason. Going by the logic of bubbly’s argument we should just have one prison to suit everyone.

15% of female prisoners are transgender in the US while the percentage of male prisoners who are trans is considerably lower. There is appeal for male prisoners to call themselves female just to get better conditions while this doesn’t work in the other direction.

Not what I said at all.
In this particular case, the individual was always going to be in protective/solitary custody, and never a part of the general population. So I fail to see what difference it would make.

[ceannairceach]

I identify as a 10 year old, so I want to be placed in the nearest school please. We will all be supervised by school staff anyway, so I don’t see why presence there would be an issue.

Why not? Sure there’d be no harm of course!

A man who wanted murder his mother, and who wanted to rape a prison officer “with an object do she can never have children”.

But because there are female prison staff in male prisons then sure why not feed his delusion by putting him in a women’s jail ?

Let’s go further and allow him to get a gynecological exam - it’s “kind” to him right ??

This country is a joke - at the very least his GRC should be rescinded but ideally it needs to be removed from law - it’s a complete joke and the fact you have people blithely going “but why shouldn’t he be in a women’s prison??” - it’s pathetic.

[knownunknown]

I identify as a 10 year old, so I want to be placed in the nearest school please. We will all be supervised by school staff anyway, so I don’t see why presence there would be an issue.

If they disagree with you -you can get them cancelled and ruin their careers.

[knownunknown]

Why not? Sure there’d be no harm of course!

A man who wanted murder his mother, and who wanted to rape a prison officer “with an object do she can never have children”.

But because there are female prison staff in male prisons then sure why not feed his delusion by putting him in a women’s jail ?

Let’s go further and allow him to get a gynecological exam - it’s “kind” to him right ??

This country is a joke - at the very least his GRC should be rescinded but ideally it needs to be removed from law - it’s a complete joke and the fact you have people blithely going “but why shouldn’t he be in a women’s prison??” - it’s pathetic.

The majority of transitions right now in society seems to be female to male, with the likes of Jordan Peterson describing it as a social contagion. Yet when you look at prison populations it’s exactly the opposite, there are far more male to female. How can one explain this I wonder.

[Jequ0n]

Why not? Sure there’d be no harm of course!

A man who wanted murder his mother, and who wanted to rape a prison officer “with an object do she can never have children”.

But because there are female prison staff in male prisons then sure why not feed his delusion by putting him in a women’s jail ?

Let’s go further and allow him to get a gynecological exam - it’s “kind” to him right ??

This country is a joke - at the very least his GRC should be rescinded but ideally it needs to be removed from law - it’s a complete joke and the fact you have people blithely going “but why shouldn’t he be in a women’s prison??” - it’s pathetic.

To be fair, it sounds like the hatred of the mother is well justified, although the threats obviously needed to be addressed. I can also see why the police warden would have caused frustration. What is worrying that he is not even willing or able to pretend to let go of a wrath and instead doubles down. You cannot let someone with no self control roam.
I suspect he will be found in a body of water within weeks though. Happy to take bets

[Belladonna]

How exactly?
The individual in question is dangerous. Doesn't matter at all what their gender is. What does it have to do with the GRA?

Because of the GRA, he was housed in a women's prison. A man - a dangerous one at that - was housed in a women's prison, because he says he is a woman. Is that not absurd? Whether he was segregated from the general prison populace is irrelevant - he was incarcerated at a prison for women. This is because of the GRA - the preposterousness that merely "identifying as a woman" means a man is a woman. It's not even correct use of language - woman isn't a gender. Gender denotes behaviour. Woman/female - these are rooted in biology. Feminine is the gender - and yes, any man can be feminine. Nothing wrong with being gender non conforming.

BK is very traumatised and disturbed due to a shockingly abusive childhood, but this has made him dangerous and deranged. It has made him sexually dysfunctional due to depravities being visited on him as a child. I feel kinda heartbroken for the little boy he was. But now he's a young man, and people - especially women, it seems - are not safe around him.

It's absolutely correct that he is not representative of all trans people. He's no friend to them actually - no doubt they're sick of certain cross-dressing men hijacking their community, which comprises people who have, since a young age, been distressed by their sexed body... and want to have all the hormones and surgery to at least present as convincingly as possible as the opposite sex. Blokes who wear women's clothes (because it arouses them) and nothing more... are not the same as actual trans people.

But the GRA makes it possible for any bloke who just says he identifies as a woman (which means very little) to be sent to women's prisons, play in women's contact and strength sports, and use women's facilities. And have to be referred to with she/her/hers pronouns. Men - getting all these concessions because of saying they identify as women. It's so beyond bonkers it would make a brilliant comedy. And it's particularly flummoxing when self proclaimed feminists support it.

Now a transwoman who has had all the hormones and surgery (after age 18) - once they're respectful to women, I've no problem with them using women's toilets, changing rooms, being sent to women's prison for non violent/non sexual crimes. Sports - not those with strength components as there's still a physical advantage - but I'll use she/her/hers for them. They are the real deal.

But just any bloke saying he's a woman - absolutely unacceptable. Yet legitimised by the GRA, leading to something as farcical as a violent, sexually disturbed man being placed in a women's prison.

[Jequ0n]

Because of the GRA, he was housed in a women's prison. A man - a dangerous one at that - was housed in a women's prison, because he says he is a woman. Is that not absurd? Whether he was segregated from the general prison populace is irrelevant - he was incarcerated at a prison for women. This is because of the GRA - the preposterousness that merely "identifying as a woman" means a man is a woman. It's not even correct use of language - woman isn't a gender. Gender denotes behaviour. Woman/female - these are rooted in biology. Feminine is the gender - and yes, any man can be feminine. Nothing wrong with being gender non conforming.

BK is very traumatised and disturbed due to a shockingly abusive childhood, but this has made him dangerous and deranged. It has made him sexually dysfunctional due to depravities being visited on him as a child. I feel kinda heartbroken for the little boy he was. But now he's a young man, and people - especially women, it seems - are not safe around him.

It's absolutely correct that he is not representative of all trans people. He's no friend to them actually - no doubt they're sick of certain cross-dressing men hijacking their community, which comprises people who have, since a young age, been distressed by their sexed body... and want to have all the hormones and surgery to at least present as convincingly as possible as the opposite sex. Blokes who wear women's clothes (because it arouses them) and nothing more... are not the same as actual trans people.

But the GRA makes it possible for any bloke who just says he identifies as a woman (which means very little) to be sent to women's prisons, play in women's contact and strength sports, and use women's facilities. And have to be referred to with she/her/hers pronouns. Men - getting all these concessions because of saying they identify as women. It's so beyond bonkers it would make a brilliant comedy. And it's particularly flummoxing when self proclaimed feminists support it.

Now a transwoman who has had all the hormones and surgery (after age 18) - once they're respectful to women, I've no problem with them using women's toilets, changing rooms, being sent to women's prison for non violent/non sexual crimes. Sports - not those with strength components as there's still a physical advantage - but I'll use she/her/hers for them. They are the real deal.

But just any bloke saying he's a woman - absolutely unacceptable. Yet legitimised by the GRA, leading to something as farcical as a violent, sexually disturbed man being placed in a women's prison.

Nothing to add to this perfectly worded argument.

[ceannairceach]

Because of the GRA, he was housed in a women's prison. A man - a dangerous one at that - was housed in a women's prison, because he says he is a woman. Is that not absurd? Whether he was segregated from the general prison populace is irrelevant - he was incarcerated at a prison for women. This is because of the GRA - the preposterousness that merely "identifying as a woman" means a man is a woman. It's not even correct use of language - woman isn't a gender. Gender denotes behaviour. Woman/female - these are rooted in biology. Feminine is the gender - and yes, any man can be feminine. Nothing wrong with being gender non conforming.

BK is very traumatised and disturbed due to a shockingly abusive childhood, but this has made him dangerous and deranged. It has made him sexually dysfunctional due to depravities being visited on him as a child. I feel kinda heartbroken for the little boy he was. But now he's a young man, and people - especially women, it seems - are not safe around him.

It's absolutely correct that he is not representative of all trans people. He's no friend to them actually - no doubt they're sick of certain cross-dressing men hijacking their community, which comprises people who have, since a young age, been distressed by their sexed body... and want to have all the hormones and surgery to at least present as convincingly as possible as the opposite sex. Blokes who wear women's clothes (because it arouses them) and nothing more... are not the same as actual trans people.

But the GRA makes it possible for any bloke who just says he identifies as a woman (which means very little) to be sent to women's prisons, play in women's contact and strength sports, and use women's facilities. And have to be referred to with she/her/hers pronouns. Men - getting all these concessions because of saying they identify as women. It's so beyond bonkers it would make a brilliant comedy. And it's particularly flummoxing when self proclaimed feminists support it.

Now a transwoman who has had all the hormones and surgery (after age 18) - once they're respectful to women, I've no problem with them using women's toilets, changing rooms, being sent to women's prison for non violent/non sexual crimes. Sports - not those with strength components as there's still a physical advantage - but I'll use she/her/hers for them. They are the real deal.

But just any bloke saying he's a woman - absolutely unacceptable. Yet legitimised by the GRA, leading to something as farcical as a violent, sexually disturbed man being placed in a women's prison.

There’s literally nothing more -kudos for a perfectly worded point.

[Belladonna]

Thanks all. It really is pretty reasonable and logical - anodyne tbh. And the way I and many others get labelled a transphobe; hate-filled, fascist... is a fking disgrace.

[Jequ0n]

Thanks all. It really is pretty reasonable and logical - anodyne tbh. And the way I and many others get labelled a transphobe; hate-filled, fascist... is a fking disgrace.

Sounds like something a genocidal transphobe would say.

[knownunknown]

Thanks all. It really is pretty reasonable and logical - anodyne tbh. And the way I and many others get labelled a transphobe; hate-filled, fascist... is a fking disgrace.

TERF, don’t forget TERF. There’s nothing radical about not wanting men in women’s spaces.

[Bubblypop]

Because of the GRA, he was housed in a women's prison. A man - a dangerous one at that - was housed in a women's prison, because he says he is a woman. Is that not absurd? Whether he was segregated from the general prison populace is irrelevant - he was incarcerated at a prison for women. This is because of the GRA - the preposterousness that merely "identifying as a woman" means a man is a woman. It's not even correct use of language - woman isn't a gender. Gender denotes behaviour. Woman/female - these are rooted in biology. Feminine is the gender - and yes, any man can be feminine. Nothing wrong with being gender non conforming.

BK is very traumatised and disturbed due to a shockingly abusive childhood, but this has made him dangerous and deranged. It has made him sexually dysfunctional due to depravities being visited on him as a child. I feel kinda heartbroken for the little boy he was. But now he's a young man, and people - especially women, it seems - are not safe around him.

It's absolutely correct that he is not representative of all trans people. He's no friend to them actually - no doubt they're sick of certain cross-dressing men hijacking their community, which comprises people who have, since a young age, been distressed by their sexed body... and want to have all the hormones and surgery to at least present as convincingly as possible as the opposite sex. Blokes who wear women's clothes (because it arouses them) and nothing more... are not the same as actual trans people.

But the GRA makes it possible for any bloke who just says he identifies as a woman (which means very little) to be sent to women's prisons, play in women's contact and strength sports, and use women's facilities. And have to be referred to with she/her/hers pronouns. Men - getting all these concessions because of saying they identify as women. It's so beyond bonkers it would make a brilliant comedy. And it's particularly flummoxing when self proclaimed feminists support it.

Now a transwoman who has had all the hormones and surgery (after age 18) - once they're respectful to women, I've no problem with them using women's toilets, changing rooms, being sent to women's prison for non violent/non sexual crimes. Sports - not those with strength components as there's still a physical advantage - but I'll use she/her/hers for them. They are the real deal.

But just any bloke saying he's a woman - absolutely unacceptable. Yet legitimised by the GRA, leading to something as farcical as a violent, sexually disturbed man being placed in a women's prison.

I agree about everything you said about this extremely dangerous individual. But none of it has anything to do with the GRA. Whether BK decides to be male, female or eunuch, they are still dangerous AF. They are never going to be a part of the general population in any prison.

[ceannairceach]

I agree about everything you said about this extremely dangerous individual. But none of it has anything to do with the GRA. Whether BK decides to be male, female or eunuch, they are still dangerous AF. They are never going to be a part of the general population in any prison.

Answer the damn question for once - why should this MAN be in a WOMEN’s jail ?

And how else but the GRA would he have been housed there?

Stop fudging it with crap about “oh he isn’t in general population, there are female prison staff in men’s jails he can hurt ..” etc.

[knownunknown]

I agree about everything you said about this extremely dangerous individual. But none of it has anything to do with the GRA. Whether BK decides to be male, female or eunuch, they are still dangerous AF. They are never going to be a part of the general population in any prison.

Not in any prison. He is now out of prison and legally a woman because of the GRA. Able to access women’s shelters, women’s toilets, women’s changing rooms and if anyone refuses they will be labelled bigots and probably lose their job. This dangerous individual who is unrepentant about thoughts of raping women.

The poor women of limerick are dangerously exposed because of the GRA.

[Jequ0n]

Not in any prison. He is now out of prison and legally a woman because of the GRA. Able to access women’s shelters, women’s toilets, women’s changing rooms and if anyone refuses they will be labelled bigots and probably lose their job. This dangerous individual who is unrepentant about thoughts of raping women.

The poor women of limerick are dangerously exposed because of the GRA.

The violent thoughts are totally irrelevant, and I am sure that his reasons for hating the mother are valid. It’s the 15 previous violent offences that should be taken more seriously. Because these will be 15 things he got caught for. Unless he is an imbecile who can’t plan offences properly there will be a much higher number of offences.

[Bubblypop]

Answer the damn question for once - why should this MAN be in a WOMEN’s jail ?

And how else but the GRA would he have been housed there?

Stop fudging it with crap about “oh he isn’t in general population, there are female prison staff in men’s jails he can hurt ..” etc.

I presume because BK is a transgender woman? What difference does it make?

[Bubblypop]

Not in any prison. He is now out of prison and legally a woman because of the GRA. Able to access women’s shelters, women’s toilets, women’s changing rooms and if anyone refuses they will be labelled bigots and probably lose their job. This dangerous individual who is unrepentant about thoughts of raping women.

The poor women of limerick are dangerously exposed because of the GRA.

Hate to tell you but anyone can access anywhere. There is nothing stopping anyone walking into a woman's toilet. Women's shelters are not public and they get to say who is allowed into their property or not. No one will label them bigots because they stop a highly dangerous person from living in their private facility, that's just nonsense.
The poor women of limerick are exposed because there is a highly dangerous individual on the streets, doesn't matter what gender they say they are.

[ceannairceach]

Breaching several conditions of release:

https://x.com/thisisdublin0/status/1974 ... 61946?s=46

Lock him up - the ‘Joy must have a secure wing?? I know Portlaoise Prison does, several severely disturbed wingnuts down there, perfect for him.

And he’s not a “transgender woman” - that’s like saying he’s a fcking leprechaun, it’s not real.

[ceannairceach]

He needs locking up end of story.

[Jequ0n]

He needs locking up end of story.

The more coverage he gets the higher the chance that someone will fix this problem themselves. Although I would kind of like it if he got to his parents before that happens.

[Belladonna]

I agree about everything you said about this extremely dangerous individual. But none of it has anything to do with the GRA. Whether BK decides to be male, female or eunuch, they are still dangerous AF. They are never going to be a part of the general population in any prison.

No man should be in a women's prison, least of all a violent, sexually deviant one. This should not be normalised.

Being segregated from the general populace is irrelevant.

[ceannairceach]

No man should be in a women's prison, least of all a violent, sexually deviant one. This should not be normalised.

Well said - I am genuinely baffled at the lunacy of anyone who thinks it’s okay.