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RIP Charlie Kirk

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NattyO
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ceannairceach wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 11:07 am “You can say what the feck you like on Irish tv”

Since fcking when???

Then get Helen Joyce on the LLS and debate the lunacy of the gender ideological cult.

Invite BeLongTo or one of those organisations and ask them out how ethical it is to have a minister’s husband market dangerous puberty blockers while the Government she sits in pushes them??

Get O’Gorman on and grill him how the the shocking rise in illegal immigration is a direct result of his at best ineptitude and at worst deviousness.

Hell, bring on Greenpeace or similar and remind them that China and India pollute more than anyone!!

No thought not - there are left wing sacred cows that RTE are shit scared to touch. And they know it.

But yeah you say anything eh ?
It’s a flat out lie to claim you can say anything on TV in a country where no politician from either of the two main parties have been asked a hard question in 10 years, where graft and corruption is rarely mentioned, where only one side of any social debate is given real airtime, and where every TV channel has loudly and strongly taken a side in every referendum.
In terms of what is allowed on TV, Ireland is barely better than North Korea, just a little more subtle.
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knownunknown wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 1:17 am Patrick Kielty and the seals clapping along.

Worth taking a look at Kimmel's idea of a special message of support for his peers when the shoe was on the other foot.

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Funny story by comedian Mark Sherwood Merchant about Jimmy Kimmels sister Jill once messaging him to tell he’d never be on the Jimmy Kimmel show because “you’re a racist” - she’s an entertainer on cruise ships. She objected to one of his puppets called Wing Tip Shu.
Being an arsehole obviously runs in the family.

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ceannairceach wrote: Sun Sep 21, 2025 11:07 am “You can say what the feck you like on Irish tv”

Since fcking when???

Then get Helen Joyce on the LLS and debate the lunacy of the gender ideological cult.

Invite BeLongTo or one of those organisations and ask them out how ethical it is to have a minister’s husband market dangerous puberty blockers while the Government she sits in pushes them??

Get O’Gorman on and grill him how the the shocking rise in illegal immigration is a direct result of his at best ineptitude and at worst deviousness.

Hell, bring on Greenpeace or similar and remind them that China and India pollute more than anyone!!

No thought not - there are left wing sacred cows that RTE are shit scared to touch. And they know it.

But yeah you say anything eh ?
Of course it’s not true. But the worst thing is that everybody knows this, too, but choses to ignore it when it suits them. There is nothing that Europeans seem to love more than to ridicule the US and to tell themselves that they are much smarter. The biggest idiots usually have the highest opinion of themselves.
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CNN :we don’t have a motive yet, while speaking over the person trying to correct her.

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Belladonna wrote: Wed Sep 17, 2025 10:51 pm Someone pointed out that this isn't how young guys born in the 2000s speak in text. It's unusually formal.
There was some body cam footage of Robinson being stopped for traffic accident some time ago recently released.

It gives some indication of his mannerisms and he seems to speak quite formally.

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So does anyone remember the first guy that was arrested and released?

Turns out he said he did it to help Robinson get away. Then when arrested by the fbi they found child porn on his phone and sent him to prison.

https://lynnwoodtimes.com/2025/09/16/george-zinn/
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knownunknown wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:44 pm So does anyone remember the first guy that was arrested and released?

Turns out he said he did it to help Robinson get away. Then when arrested by the fbi they found child porn on his phone and sent him to prison.

https://lynnwoodtimes.com/2025/09/16/george-zinn/
Does the US have a similar offence as assisting an offender or aiding and abetting?? Surely he’s a textbook case?

The horrible videos will see him sent down anyway thankfully.
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ceannairceach wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:55 pm Does the US have a similar offence as assisting an offender or aiding and abetting?? Surely he’s a textbook case?

The horrible videos will see him sent down anyway thankfully.
Yes, we have something called The legal term ‘aiding and abetting’ in the US, a legal term that refers to a person’s action to help, support, or approve of someone else’s illegal act. Aiding and abetting is a crime in itself, held against those who would somehow assist a criminal, short of physically contributing to the illegal act. But it might not be easily prosecuted in this matter as he didn’t know the assassin and merely was merely trying to give cover for the killer. But his actions did lead to confusion in the crucial minutes immediately following the shooting, Therefore he was charged with obstruction of justice, instead.

Zinn was also hit with four counts of sexual exploitation of a minor after he let authorities search his phone and told them that he uses his phone to view child sex abuse material.

Some lovely people we have here on the Left. :roll:
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notobtuse wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 7:36 pm Yes, we have something called The legal term ‘aiding and abetting’ in the US, a legal term that refers to a person’s action to help, support, or approve of someone else’s illegal act. Aiding and abetting is a crime in itself, held against those who would somehow assist a criminal, short of physically contributing to the illegal act. But it might not be easily prosecuted in this matter as he didn’t know the assassin and merely was merely trying to give cover for the killer. But his actions did lead to confusion in the crucial minutes immediately following the shooting, Therefore he was charged with obstruction of justice, instead.

Zinn was also hit with four counts of sexual exploitation of a minor after he let authorities search his phone and told them that he uses his phone to view child sex abuse material.

Some lovely people we have here on the Left. :roll:
Oh they’re just the finest aren’t they ??
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ceannairceach wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 8:28 pm Oh they’re just the finest aren’t they ??
We have some real winner on the Right, also. But lately it's been those on the Left that have advocated for violence to an exponential proportion.
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ceannairceach wrote: Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:55 pm Does the US have a similar offence as assisting an offender or aiding and abetting?? Surely he’s a textbook case?

The horrible videos will see him sent down anyway thankfully.
"Accessory after the fact " I thought was the term in US.

Watched a lot of Matlock back in the day.
The real Matlock btw.
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jmayo wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 8:39 pm "Accessory after the fact " I thought was the term in US.

Watched a lot of Matlock back in the day.
The real Matlock btw.
There was a fake Matlock?
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knownunknown wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 8:50 pm There was a fake Matlock?
There’s a reboot starring Kathy Bates.

It’s alright not a patch on the classic!
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knownunknown wrote: Thu Sep 25, 2025 8:50 pm There was a fake Matlock?
Ahh come on now.
First Magnum...
Magnum was reworked with Magnum no longer a big strapping white guy with a tash, but a smallish hispanic guy.
Higgins is no longer an antagonistic old English guy, but a hot English woman who everyone knows Magnum really wants to get in her knickers but we can't have that now until she signs numerous consent forms.
And we half a dozen very heavy native Hawaiians and a guy in wheelchair thrown in.

Hawaii Five-O was reworked with some major female characters, a black guy, a few Asians.

The new Equaliser TV show is no longer a middle aged white guy, hell he isn't even a black guy like in the movies, but a black woman.

MacGyver was reworked where he wasn't an older guy but a lad that looked like he missed the audition for one of Simon Cowells boybands.
Oh and they had a "short stature" actor in it.

Matlock is now a woman not an old tired cranky old white guy in white suits.
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jmayo wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 2:52 pm Ahh come on now.
First Magnum...

Matlock is now a woman not an old tired cranky old white guy in white suits.
Hadn’t heard of this new woman Matlock. I remember the guy in the white suit and the curly grey hair. Used to watch it a lot with my uncle along time ago, it’s been so long since I even thought about it.

Yeah what the iconoclasts did to t.v. and movie culture was akin to all those statue tearing down we saw a while back. Same as Mao tried to institute in China. They aren’t about building anything new, just tearing the existing down.
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knownunknown wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 3:20 pm Hadn’t heard of this new woman Matlock. I remember the guy in the white suit and the curly grey hair. Used to watch it a lot with my uncle along time ago, it’s been so long since I even thought about it.

Yeah what the iconoclasts did to t.v. and movie culture was akin to all those statue tearing down we saw a while back. Same as Mao tried to institute in China. They aren’t about building anything new, just tearing the existing down.
I wanted to watch King and Conqueror about 1066 and that, apparently there was a black fighter in King Harold’s army.

Make tv, tell stories - leave the identity politics alone.
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ceannairceach wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 5:21 pm I wanted to watch King and Conqueror about 1066 and that, apparently there was a black fighter in King Harold’s army.

Make tv, tell stories - leave the identity politics alone.
Black people have always existed :o
Black History Month: Medieval and Early Modern England - BBC Bitesize https://share.google/f2GXHu2jz9NoA3sJo
A Timeline Of Black History In Britain | Spelthorne Borough Council https://share.google/aUv34jBlCZI54Se8f
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Bubblypop wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 6:50 pm Black people have always existed :o
Black History Month: Medieval and Early Modern England - BBC Bitesize https://share.google/f2GXHu2jz9NoA3sJo
A Timeline Of Black History In Britain | Spelthorne Borough Council https://share.google/aUv34jBlCZI54Se8f
Got a link where one fought right next to King Harold on the battlefield ? No thought not.
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ceannairceach wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 8:29 pm Got a link where one fought right next to King Harold on the battlefield ? No thought not.
Oh yeah I'll just link to a documentary filmed at the battlefield 😄
If there were Africans in England at the time, can't see why they wouldn't have been involved.
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Bubblypop wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 8:41 pm Oh yeah I'll just link to a documentary filmed at the battlefield 😄
If there were Africans in England at the time, can't see why they wouldn't have been involved.
So, no then.
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ceannairceach wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 9:27 pm So, no then.
🤣🤣 Can you prove they were not? No? Ok then 😁
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ceannairceach wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 8:29 pm Got a link where one fought right next to King Harold on the battlefield ? No thought not.
There were people of non European origin who fought in battles, but usually as mercenaries and the like. Not in any capacity to be highlighted in a film or series unless you needed to fulfil a quota.
Not the best source probably:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/z8gpm39
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Jequ0n wrote: Sat Sep 27, 2025 10:23 pm There were people of non European origin who fought in battles, but usually as mercenaries and the like. Not in any capacity to be highlighted in a film or series unless you needed to fulfil a quota.
Not the best source probably:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/z8gpm39
I imagine certain posters quite believe that Anne Boleyn and Queen Charlotte were both black, given recent casting.
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