People who protest against ipas centers

[Bubblypop]

Yes, if government spent the money the spend renting places for homeless people and asylum seekers actually building properties, there wouldn't be so many issues

[ceannairceach]

Yes, if government spent the money the spend renting places for homeless people and asylum seekers actually building properties, there wouldn't be so many issues

Bollocks. They’d just be giving built properties to chancers.

The problem is solved by building multiple detention centres and having mass deportations.

[Bubblypop]

Bollocks. They’d just be giving built properties to chancers.

The problem is solved by building multiple detention centres and having mass deportations.

Finland solved their homeless problem by guess what? Building homes for them! Amazing

[Jequ0n]

Finland solved their homeless problem by guess what? Building homes for them! Amazing

You don’t solve a homelessness problem by inviting in more homeless. Unless you aren’t interested in a long term and sustainable solution for the people in the current situation.

[Headshot]

Bollocks. They’d just be giving built properties to chancers.

The problem is solved by building multiple detention centres and having mass deportations.

We should have a detention camp outside Ireland and the chancers would stop in a heart beat

Ireland has no deterrent's and that's our biggest issue

[Bubblypop]

You don’t solve a homelessness problem by inviting in more homeless. Unless you aren’t interested in a long term and sustainable solution for the people in the current situation.

And yet Finland solved their homeless crisis by building houses. Amazing

[Jequ0n]

And yet Finland solved their homeless crisis by building houses. Amazing

As per my previous response, I will recognise this success once it shows long term success.

[Berties_Horse]

As per my previous response, I will recognise this success once it shows long term success.

Don't rise to the bait, totes amazeballs.

[Jequ0n]

Don't rise to the bait, totes amazeballs.

Not much to resist if the argument lacks any credibility.

[Bubblypop]

As per my previous response, I will recognise this success once it shows long term success.

Well, they don't have a homeless issue, so there that!

[Jequ0n]

Well, they don't have a homeless issue, so there that!

Unsurprising when you consider the immigration numbers for 2025 so far. It is absolutely irresponsible to let more people move to a country that already can’t service the needs of its current population.

Total Population: 5.46 million as of April 2025.
Immigrants to Ireland (12 months to April 2025): 125,300 people.
Categories of Immigrants:
Returning Irish Citizens: 31,500
Other EU Citizens: 25,300
UK Citizens: 4,900
Other Countries (Non-EU/UK): 63,600
Emigration (12 months to April 2025): 65,600 people left the country, representing a decrease from the previous year. (Interesting that this number is not broken down into nationality details as the immigration one is, so unknown whether the leavers are Irish or migrants leaving).

Net Migration Projections: Statistics Finland revised population projections in late 2024 to estimate net immigration of approximately 40,000-45,000 in 2025.

[Bubblypop]

I'm not sure what the point is.
In 2024 net migration to Finland was 47,051, Net migration to Ireland was 39,000.
Population of Finland 5.637 million

[Jequ0n]

I'm not sure what the point is.
In 2024 net migration to Finland was 47,051, Net migration to Ireland was 39,000.
Population of Finland 5.637 million

I can’t understand it for you

[Bubblypop]

I can’t understand it for you

Nope. And clearly can't explain it better. What does it have to do with homeless people in Finland being given homes?

[Jequ0n]

Nope. And clearly can't explain it better. What does it have to do with homeless people in Finland being given homes?

Yes, because I find it difficult to believe that you are genuine here.
Obviously it will be easier to house people if a country does not start off with having a housing deficit for its already existing population. Any additional add on will add further pressure.
There are also different immigration numbers for both counties forecasted.

No country should have to accept uncapped amounts of arrivals if they can’t provide for them. A swarm of locusts, since you enjoy the religious/ secular debate.
And I’m getting bored now, again.

[schmittel]

Yes, because I find it difficult to believe that you are genuine here.
Obviously it will be easier to house people if a country does not start off with having a housing deficit for its already existing population. Any additional add on will add further pressure.
There are also different immigration numbers for both counties forecasted.

No country should have to accept uncapped amounts of arrivals if they can’t provide for them. A swarm of locusts, since you enjoy the religious/ secular debate.
And I’m getting bored now, again.

To be fair, it's not exactly crystal clear if we have a housing deficit or not, and if we do what is the size of the deficit. That would be a handy thing to get consensus on but it seems bafflingly elusive.

[LordSyko69]

Yes, if government spent the money the spend renting places for homeless people and asylum seekers actually building properties, there wouldn't be so many issues

Not true. There would still be the issue of non-whites and their violent genetics being present in the country.

[kadman]

To be fair, it's not exactly crystal clear if we have a housing deficit or not, and if we do what is the size of the deficit. That would be a handy thing to get consensus on but it seems bafflingly elusive.

We dont have a housing deficit we have an inability to build decent commercial or domestic building as per building regulations.

If we did then we would not have had the mica housing fiasco along with the pyrite material in housing , which has caused the loss of 1000's of houses from the housing stock, not to mention the billions required from the taxpayer in redress schemes. All for the benefit of construction companies that used dodgy building practices, and still do.
The same companies that caused some of these building fuckups, are currently engaged in continuing phases of the same schemes, instead of being jailed.

over 100,00 apartments in Dublin alone are subject to continuing repair works that the owners are forced to pay for, otherwise it does not get done. Along with the promise of reimbursement at some time in the future.
We had deplorable buildings both domestic and commercial built in the celtic tiger era, and still continuing today nearly 30 years later, and the government have done nothing to change this. If they had we would not have another major building apartments fuckup coming down the road, which we will have, i have seen a preliminary report on a specific aspect of a build. Tax payers will have to buckle up for the next assault on the taxpayers coffers to pay for this one.As the saying goes, watch this space.

[Bubblypop]

Not true. There would still be the issue of non-whites and their violent genetics being present in the country.

Ah such baiting!
Non whites have violent genetics? Pretty sure I can call this rampant racism, shocked that people thanked this post. Maybe I shouldn't be

[knownunknown]

Not true. There would still be the issue of non-whites and their violent genetics being present in the country.

There was a 20th century leader who believed the nation had become weak, corrupted by dysgenics, the infusion of degenerate elements into its bloodstream and led to mass sterilization and the mass murder of undesireables.

Is that what you would like to see also?

[Guburnor]

Not true. There would still be the issue of non-whites and their violent genetics being present in the country.

MOD Note: this is pushing the limits to say the least. If you are aware of and can share some sort of credible study that shows non-whites are genetically more predisposed to violence than whites then by all means post for discussion.

But if it is just a personal opinion please drop this line of argument here, thanks.

[NewBroom]

Jack Chambers on the radio earlier opining that the population of Ireland has risen by 1 million in a little over 15 years and heading northwards.

We simply have to stem this tide of growth, we need deflation in population.

I'd cut all spending on IPAS centres whether constructed by the state or rented. Set up large standing camps with secured boundaries, process applications there and act accordingly, swiftly and let's save the few bob.

[ceannairceach]

Jack Chambers on the radio earlier opining that the population of Ireland has risen by 1 million in a little over 15 years and heading northwards.

We simply have to stem this tide of growth, we need deflation in population.

I'd cut all spending on IPAS centres whether constructed by the state or rented. Set up large standing camps with secured boundaries, process applications there and act accordingly, swiftly and let's save the few bob.

Completely agree with every dot of this!

[knownunknown]

Set up large standing camps with secured boundaries, process applications there and act accordingly, swiftly and let's save the few bob.

Camps where we send only certain people, in a concentrated fashion?

[ceannairceach]

Camps where we send only certain people, in a concentrated fashion?

Camps as in refugee style camps ffs.