RIP Charlie Kirk

[Bubblypop]

There no difference to the victims of terrorism

[knownunknown]

“With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion”

Steven Weinberg

[Bubblypop]

Evil itself is a religious type of term. Good people can indeed do bad things, plenty have for all sorts of reasons money, jealousy, hatred etc etc

[Jequ0n]

Evil itself is a religious type of term. Good people can indeed do bad things, plenty have for all sorts of reasons money, jealousy, hatred etc etc

“Evil” is a ridiculous concept to start with because it’s so subjective. I disregard someone’s argument as soon as the term is being used.

[Jequ0n]

I’m an atheist but I can see the value Christianity has on people. I’d much prefer to meet a group of Christians in a dark alley somewhere than anyone else.

I genuinely think that this is not about religion, but about culture.

[Belladonna]

I think "evil" as a biblical concept isn't really a thing now. It's just a synonym for cruel, nasty, vindictive.

[Jequ0n]

I think "evil" as a biblical concept isn't really a thing now. It's just a synonym for cruel, nasty, vindictive.

It was never biblical, but always a construct to signify socially unacceptable concepts. Throughout time.
Usually driven by the idiots that make up the majority of the population.

[Belladonna]

If someone says someone who murders their child is evil, they just mean they're cruel. Sometimes the word gets over analysed.

[Jequ0n]

If someone says someone who murders their child is evil, they just mean they're cruel. Sometimes the word gets over analysed.

No, they don’t think that far. “Evil” signifies that their fragile sensitivities have been upset and it’s the most emotionally laden adjective they can find in their vocabulary.

If they burned the soles off their child’s feet and made them walk to through salt that would qualify as cruelty. If they drug and smother them it’s obviously not right but not cruel.

[knownunknown]

“Evil” is a ridiculous concept to start with because it’s so subjective. I disregard someone’s argument as soon as the term is being used.

Evil is used by non religious people alike though outside of its original meaning, used interchangeably with despicable. I don’t think the quantum physicist who coined the phrase above was trying to conjure notions of mystical beings.

[Jequ0n]

Evil is used by non religious people alike though outside of its original meaning, used interchangeably with despicable. I don’t think the quantum physicist who coined the phrase above was trying to conjure notions of mystical beings.

It’s a term used by either idiots, or people who want to appeal to them. Most of you latch on to any sob story as soon as you sense a connection.

[Belladonna]

It's just a negative descriptor.

[Jequ0n]

It’s an emotionally laden descriptor, ergo aimed at eliciting an equally charged response from people. Nothing else.

[Belladonna]

It’s a term used by either idiots, or people who want to appeal to them. Most of you latch on to any sob story as soon as you sense a connection.

Most of us? I use the word "evil" to describe egregious behaviour - like child abuse. Not always subjective, no. And not for just any sob story. I use it no differently to "cruel", "sadistic", and like Known said: despicable. What are you policing words for? Why just the word "evil"?

[Jequ0n]

Most of us? I use the word "evil" to describe egregious behaviour - like child abuse. Not always subjective, no. And not for just any sob story. I use it no differently to "cruel", "sadistic", and like Known said: despicable. What are you policing words for? Why just the word "evil"?

I am not policing anything. You are free to use any words or language you like but I won’t necessarily take arguments seriously if they cannot be made without emotional involvement. This is not aimed at you personally but really at the vast majority of people who cannot detach emotions from discussions. “Evil” is a mild example, you should see my inner tantrum when people fall over themselves to outdo one another expressing their grief over a situation that has nothing to do with them.

[ceannairceach]

Look at the gender morons - going out with placards threatening bodily harm and even death on non believers.

Threats of rape and death sent daily to high profile (and less so) women’s rights advocates.

Yet they think they’re the good guys.


Meanwhile people faith (e.g. the late Charlie Kirk) would say - and has - I may not agree with how you live your life but God loves you, and we can talk about what we agree on not what we don’t.

And he was killed for it by people who think others are “evil” for not believing every sad little aspect of their “identity”.

Morons to a fcking man.

[jmayo]

If someone says someone who murders their child is evil, they just mean they're cruel. Sometimes the word gets over analysed.

I am fooking tired how we now have to over analyse every word, every comment.

Some people do not like the word evil because it has religious connotations, although lets be actually be honest it appears to be more precise christian religious connotations.

You get someone then coming up with psychological diagnosis of what condition someone has to suffer for them to act in such a way.

Some people are just fooking bad or as some would say evil.
Now someone can bend over backwards to find a psychological diagnosis that may fit, but at the end of the day these people are just plain fooking bad.

BTW I find it a pain in the ass how some people in the Western World are continously trying to make sure that anything that appears to have an association with our christian historical background is lessened or replaced.

I am not religious, but I damn well know we would not have the types of secular societies and cultures we have today if not for our christian backgrounds and history.

And no that doesn't mean I excuse or condone the centuries of bad deeds, nay evil (oh dear I used that word), carried out by those in religious orders or in the name of christian religions.

[ceannairceach]

I am fooking tired how we now have to over analyse every word, every comment.

Some people do not like the word evil because it has religious connotations, although lets be actually be honest it appears to be more precise christian religious connotations.

You get someone then coming up with psychological diagnosis of what condition someone has to suffer for them to act in such a way.

Some people are just fooking bad or as some would say evil.
Now someone can bend over backwards to find a psychological diagnosis that may fit, but at the end of the day these people are just plain fooking bad.

BTW I find it a pain in the ass how some people in the Western World are continously trying to make sure that anything that appears to have an association with our christian historical background is lessened or replaced.

I am not religious, but I damn well know we would not have the types of secular societies and cultures we have today if not for our christian backgrounds and history.

This. Brilliant!

[knownunknown]

For anyone trapped in a bubble for the last ten years wondering where is this connection between antifa and the trans lobby coming from just watch this.

[Jequ0n]

People are obsessed with diagnosing everything and everyone now, and usually based on nothing at all. A psychological condition should never be used for defence purposes unless the individual was unquestionably unaware of what they were doing (psychosis, schizophrenia). Exception being if they had been receiving treatment and had chosen not to take their medication.
Anything else is not a valid excuse because it is ultimately the person’s decision to carry out an act that might have consequences.
I have done things which I would never admit to, although I don’t feel bad about them. If cornered I’d use any attempt to wiggle myself out of the situation, be it the use of formal diagnosis or not. Whilst this is an option people will always use this avenue because it’s human nature. The sooner courts stop accepting those nonsense arguments for mitigation the better for everyone.

[Bubblypop]

I am fooking tired how we now have to over analyse every word, every comment.

Some people do not like the word evil because it has religious connotations, although lets be actually be honest it appears to be more precise christian religious connotations.

You get someone then coming up with psychological diagnosis of what condition someone has to suffer for them to act in such a way.

Some people are just fooking bad or as some would say evil.
Now someone can bend over backwards to find a psychological diagnosis that may fit, but at the end of the day these people are just plain fooking bad.

BTW I find it a pain in the ass how some people in the Western World are continously trying to make sure that anything that appears to have an association with our christian historical background is lessened or replaced.

I am not religious, but I damn well know we would not have the types of secular societies and cultures we have today if not for our christian backgrounds and history.

And no that doesn't mean I excuse or condone the centuries of bad deeds, nay evil (oh dear I used that word), carried out by those in religious orders or in the name of christian religions.

'I am not religious, but I damn well know we would not have the types of secular societies and cultures we have today if not for our christian backgrounds and history.'

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever! Without Christian religion we wouldn't have secular societies? That's some which nonsense. We had secular societies before religion which were based on democratic systems. Brehon law dates to the iron age.
Laws and societies are not better for Christian religion.

[Belladonna]

Yeah I fully agree people don't have to have a psychiatric condition (by nature or nurture) to do something egregious to someone else.

[knownunknown]

Patrick Kielty and the seals clapping along.

[Jequ0n]

Patrick Kielty and the seals clapping along.

Cringeworthy. And the idiots are clapping.

[ceannairceach]

Cringeworthy. And the idiots are clapping.

“You can say what the feck you like on Irish tv”

Since fcking when???

Then get Helen Joyce on the LLS and debate the lunacy of the gender ideological cult.

Invite BeLongTo or one of those organisations and ask them out how ethical it is to have a minister’s husband market dangerous puberty blockers while the Government she sits in pushes them??

Get O’Gorman on and grill him how the the shocking rise in illegal immigration is a direct result of his at best ineptitude and at worst deviousness.

Hell, bring on Greenpeace or similar and remind them that China and India pollute more than anyone!!

No thought not - there are left wing sacred cows that RTE are shit scared to touch. And they know it.

But yeah you say anything eh ?