RIP Charlie Kirk

[knownunknown]

There will be a few posters on a certain internet forum really peeved that Gript is getting such publicity.

Far right, racist, sexist blog that no on reads it and is only funded by outside foreign agitators. Middle-aged men sitting in their underwear in their parent’s basement shouting at clouds. Am I doing this right?

[Belladonna]

The "free speech" aspect is a tricky one. These punishments are not being carried out by the government (unlike Linehan's arrest!) and they are for extreme glee regarding a young, non violent man with a wife and small children being murdered, sometimes ugliness towards his family too. Not for "a man can't become a woman." And unless you have to, it's seriously idiotic to put your workplace in your social media bio. I don't post anything controversial and I still wouldn't put my workplace in there.
However I don't agree with firing (a disciplinary, sure). Or punishment for much more mild comments, like Kimmel's. People getting fired after the Trump shooting - the man didn't even get badly injured - was absurd.

I think we can all agree however that this notion of being free to say utterly anything whatsoever - absolute free speech - is unrealistic.

[knownunknown]

I think we can all agree however that this notion of being free to say utterly anything whatsoever - absolute free speech - is unrealistic.

There are already numerous restrictions that even ardent defenders of free speech agree with, defamation, child pornography, threats of or inciting violence,etc..

In this respect I don’t think there is anyone that is “absolute free speech”.

Recently there has been a push by people on the left to push for hate speech legislation to restrict people’s free speech, for example stating that men can’t be women would be enough to get punished. This is certainly a restriction on speech that only some people want.

[ceannairceach]

The Dail was asked to observe a period silence in Mr Kirk’s memory.

Usual muttering about him being American, “espousing divisive views”, “dangerous” … by the same people who held one for George Floyd. An American drug addict with a long criminal history who had held a large knife at a pregnant woman’s stomach.

[knownunknown]

The Dail was asked to observe a period silence in Mr Kirk’s memory.

Usual muttering about him being American, “espousing divisive views”, “dangerous” … by the same people who held one for George Floyd. An American drug addict with a long criminal history who had held a large knife at a pregnant woman’s stomach.

I remember staring the George Floyd thread on boards, I’d never seen a thread explode like that, logging in the next day there were already dozens of pages of replies. Most people were in agreement that he shouldn’t have been killed and footage looked terrible.

But then more footage came out, a much longer unedited video, parts of the video where Floyd clearly could breathe but was saying he couldn’t. His criminal history came out and his blood toxicology. Then the media started to spin it as a racist narrative which became the main cause of argument in that thread. No racial bias was ever proven, or there wasn’t even any evidence for.

It was the racial aspect which led to the disputes.

When people were bending the knee all over the world there were few interruptions like when people were screaming at Kirk’s vigil.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/205808 ... -in-post-1

[Bubblypop]

The Dail was asked to observe a period silence in Mr Kirk’s memory.

Usual muttering about him being American, “espousing divisive views”, “dangerous” … by the same people who held one for George Floyd. An American drug addict with a long criminal history who had held a large knife at a pregnant woman’s stomach.

No, the Dail held a minutes silence for those affected by racism. I'm not sure why they would have a minutes silence for some random man from America, who wasn't a politician, and had nothing to do with Ireland!
I don't agree with either btw. I don't see the need or point of them. But it's important to be factual.

[ceannairceach]

No, the Dail held a minutes silence for those affected by racism. I'm not sure why they would have a minutes silence for some random man from America, who wasn't a politician, and had nothing to do with Ireland!
I don't agree with either btw. I don't see the need or point of them. But it's important to be factual.

Isn’t it though? Try it.

[knownunknown]

No, the Dail held a minutes silence for those affected by racism. I'm not sure why they would have a minutes silence for some random man from America, who wasn't a politician, and had nothing to do with Ireland!
I don't agree with either btw. I don't see the need or point of them. But it's important to be factual.

That’s dishonest. The death of George Floyd had nothing to do with racism, yet it was given a minutes silence.

The silence was held at the start of Oireachtas proceedings today, following a proposal by culture minister Josepha Madigan following the death of George Floyd.

https://www.thejournal.ie/dail-minutes- ... 3-Jun2020/

[Bubblypop]

That’s dishonest. The death of George Floyd had nothing to do with racism, yet it was given a minutes silence.



https://www.thejournal.ie/dail-minutes- ... 3-Jun2020/

Perhaps read your link
'THE DÁIL HAS held a minute’s silence for those impacted by racism.'
From your link.

[Bubblypop]

Isn’t it though? Try it.

Feel free to point out any lies I have posted. Thanks

[knownunknown]

Perhaps read your link
'THE DÁIL HAS held a minute’s silence for those impacted by racism.'
From your link.

By people that were calling a minutes silence for Kirk divisive. They were the same ones pushing a racial narrative that didn’t exist in the Floyd case. Hypocrites.

[Bubblypop]

By people that were calling a minutes silence for Kirk divisive. They were the same ones pushing a racial narrative that didn’t exist in the Floyd case. Hypocrites.

Yeah I don't know who called for what but neither should take place on the Dail as far as I'm concerned

[ceannairceach]

Josepha Madigan called for the minutes silence in memory of Floyd. The Ceann Comhairle amended it to be for “Floyd and the ‘other’ victims of racism”.

It was just one of many gatherings “in honour” of that disgusting human being - many of which violated Covid regulations of the time. All escaped consequences.

Point of order - Floyd was not a victim of racism. Rather he was killed by the fentanyl that he not only partook of heavily bit pushed onto others.

He’s ruined lives, he added zero to society and is as worthy of respect, murals and taking the knee as any scummy scrote on the streets of Dublin tonight hefting drugs.

[knownunknown]

Jimmy Kimmel celebrating when tucker Carlson was fired from fox.

[knownunknown]

People that misunderstand Charlie Kirk…

How and why are so many people mis representing what he’s saying when there are tens of thousands of hours of footage out there?

[Belladonna]

"Abortion is worse than the Holocaust" was pure bait though.

[ceannairceach]

People that misunderstand Charlie Kirk…

How and why are so many people mis representing what he’s saying when there are tens of thousands of hours of footage out there?

These people believe a transubstantiation like change happens the minute you say “I identify as..” - they have the critical thinking skills of a lupin bulb.

[knownunknown]

These people believe a transubstantiation like change happens the minute you say “I identify as..” - they have the critical thinking skills of a lupin bulb.

I always got these religious vibes also. My gender, my identity reminds me how people speak about the Holy Spirit.

[knownunknown]

"Abortion was worse than the Holocaust" is pure bait though.

If you believe that you are killing a human being, you know the religious types, I can see their argument here and it’s not just trolling others.

3,300 abortions in the US every day which is about 1,100,000 per year. That’s about 1% of the child bearing population having an abortion every year.
That’s something like 1/3 women in their lifetime having an abortion(a very very rough average).

These aren’t just the edge cases of rape.

[ceannairceach]

I always got these religious vibes also. My gender, my identity reminds me how people speak about the Holy Spirit.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a mass going Catholic and at the time my faith believes in that bit you know I don’t push it on others or make people lose their jobs if they don’t agree with me!!

[knownunknown]

I can deal with the freaks and the lunatics posting vile stuff online but to see normal, every day people with normal jobs, normal friends and normal families posting under their own names, showing their own faces revelling in the gruesome murder of a young man whom they simply disagree with, feels like a line has been crossed.

The Irish media response to Charlie Kirk’s murder.

[knownunknown]

Don’t get me wrong, I’m a mass going Catholic and at the time my faith believes in that bit you know I don’t push it on others or make people lose their jobs if they don’t agree with me!!

I’m an atheist but I can see the value Christianity has on people. I’d much prefer to meet a group of Christians in a dark alley somewhere than anyone else.

[ceannairceach]

I’m an atheist but I can see the value Christianity has on people. I’d much prefer to meet a group of Christians in a dark alley somewhere than anyone else.

An excellent point and see I’m not waving a flag at you and making you say a rosary!!

[Bubblypop]

I’m an atheist but I can see the value Christianity has on people. I’d much prefer to meet a group of Christians in a dark alley somewhere than anyone else.

Seems a bit of strange genralising going on there. There are plenty of examples of Christian terrorism.
It's not about what religion anyone is, it's about the extremists I'm every religion.
I couldn't care less what religion the people I meet in a dark alley have, I just care that they are normal law abiding citizens

[knownunknown]

Seems a bit of strange genralising going on there. There are plenty of examples of Christian terrorism.
It's not about what religion anyone is, it's about the extremists I'm every religion.
I couldn't care less what religion the people I meet in a dark alley have, I just care that they are normal law abiding citizens

There’s a bit difference between Christians committing terrorism and Christians committing terrorism in the name of Christianity. Being an extremist in Jainism would lead one to be ever vigilant against hurting even the tiniest of insects, so no not all extremism goes the same way.