IMMIGRATION OUT OF CONTROL

[NattyO]

The far right barely exist in ireland, they're effectively the big boogie man of Ireland

We will never have a grown up conversation as long as people get their piece of the gravy train called the immigration industry

Hell there's idiots on boards.ie effectively blaming the Italian restaurant going out of business instead of IPAS, this is what this country is getting to, these people just cannot be reasoned with.

The hysteria over the flying of our national flag is a perfect example of the utter lunacy of the Irish "left" - they are literally calling for a ban on the plebs being allowed to fly the national flag (not a ban on the flag itself, just a ban on the working classes being allowed to fly it), in case it upsets foreigners, and are calling for the Gardaí to go around tearing our national flag down.

Even the most deluded open borders advocate knows this is madness, they can't be this stupid - but they are prepared to pretend they are, because they can leave no chink in the armor, or the whole thing comes tumbling down.

[Headshot]

The hysteria over the flying of our national flag is a perfect example of the utter lunacy of the Irish "left" - they are literally calling for a ban on the plebs being allowed to fly the national flag (not a ban on the flag itself, just a ban on the working classes being allowed to fly it), in case it upsets foreigners, and are calling for the Gardaí to go around tearing our national flag down.

Even the most deluded open borders advocate knows this is madness, they can't be this stupid - but they are prepared to pretend they are, because they can leave no chink in the armor, or the whole thing comes tumbling down.

I couldnt agree anymore with you

The idiots in DCC didn't have to say anything and nobody would of noticed, how stupid can you be.

I really cannot understand with all the issues in Dublin, lets do something about a flag, how fecking out of touch are they? Virtue Signalling as it's worse

[NattyO]

I couldnt agree anymore with you

The idiots in DCC didn't have to say anything and nobody would of noticed, how stupid can you be.

I really cannot understand with all the issues in Dublin, lets do something about a flag, how fecking out of touch are they? Virtue Signalling as it's worse

You can't be going around saying things like "with all the issues in Dublin" - as I learned on another forum, claiming that Dublin isn't perfectly safe is racist!

[PogMoThoin22]

The hysteria over the flying of our national flag is a perfect example of the utter lunacy of the Irish "left" - they are literally calling for a ban on the plebs being allowed to fly the national flag (not a ban on the flag itself, just a ban on the working classes being allowed to fly it), in case it upsets foreigners, and are calling for the Gardaí to go around tearing our national flag down.

Even the most deluded open borders advocate knows this is madness, they can't be this stupid - but they are prepared to pretend they are, because they can leave no chink in the armor, or the whole thing comes tumbling down.

This is exactly how civil wars start

[marhay70]

Their combined vote is falling and failing as time goes on. The issue is that we've no credible alternative in the so called parties of the left, they can't agree the lunch menu between themselves.

The ground is ripe though for an alternative party of the centre ground that represents the ordinary Irish citizen and caters for our requirements.

Where would you see this coming from? An honest question as I have no idea where it would come from. Driving around Dublin the other day I could see as many Palestinian flags as Irish tricolours, typical of the Irish "patriot", fight everybody's battles but your own. In Egypt they break up rallies when the Palestinian flag is carried, in Ireland they fly from official buildings.
I'm tired of this, let the Palestinians solve their own problems. I don't care if or how they can do it, but it's not our problem, we have enough to deal with.

[Headshot]

Where would you see this coming from? An honest question as I have no idea where it would come from. Driving around Dublin the other day I could see as many Palestinian flags as Irish tricolours, typical of the Irish "patriot", fight everybody's battles but your own. In Egypt they break up rallies when the Palestinian flag is carried, in Ireland they fly from official buildings.
I'm tired of this, let the Palestinians solve their own problems. I don't care if or how they can do it, but it's not our problem, we have enough to deal with.

I'm a firm believer that Ken O'Flynn has the makings to lead a new opposition party, I'd love to see it because we desperately need it

[NewBroom]

"an alternative party of the centre ground" - or, as the Irish media and a large online cohort would have it, the far right.

Indeed and they do.. but the ordinary Seán & Sinéad citizen looks on askance at being labelled far right. And objects to it. I firmly believe in the wisdom of the electorate & taxpaying public. A decent alternative and we'll flock to it.

[jmayo]

When has this ever happened in Ireland? We've had Haughey, Ahern, Cowen, Burke, Lawlor, Flynn, Kenny, Harris and probably a dozen more, who have served at the highest level of Government for FF and FG, yet who do we have in office today/ FF and FG.
There is something to the argument that the opposition is either weak or unpalatable, but that is not a reason to elect the same individual rogues over and over.

Actually I will challenge you on one name there.
Kenny might have been hard to listen to, but there was never any hint of dirt on corruption charges on him like the others.
Most of the names there were criminals (Burke the only one that saw time for it) and Harris much like Vardaker is an out and out traitor to his own people.

Hell if Kenny was around today he would be cancelled for his comments about black people and his having the Wolfe Tones play at the Christmas bash.

Now that doesn't mean I will ever forgive him for appointing that bint Zappone or giving a certain group ethnic status.

Actually I would give anything for the old school FGers who had some conservative bones in their bodies unlike the current shower.
Hell it is now so bad I would even welcome back some of the old FFers.

Anything but the current shower of servile sycophantic ar**licking traiterous c n t s.

At least we had politicians before who put up some sort of fight for something like getting opt-out using protocol 21 of Lisbon treaty.
The current shower over the last few years have failed to use that unlike the Danes.

As bad as the past fookers were they always figured out that ultimately they had to do something for the people otherwise they faced losing their cushy number. And yes I know it was in their own interests first and foremost.

The current shower look like they couldn't give a sh** about us at all.

[NewBroom]

Talk now of the population of the Republic reaching 7.5 million in next 40 years: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/09 ... n-ireland/

Given that we'll have ongoing immigration from mainly younger people, unlike the report, I expect the birth rates to be much higher in these cohorts. It's how you maximise your benefits and get established.

I've been banned from the other site for pointing this out but the future is inevitable - we will see a complete makeover of the population of Ireland in the next generation or two. An exponential growth among those of non national origins.

And when the history of this is written, the blame will firmly affix to the governments of the last decade who have not only done nothing to stem this tide but who have knocked down the bulwarks and let the flows in. Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and The Greens, The Greens - how ironic the name.

[marhay70]

Actually I will challenge you on one name there.
Kenny might have been hard to listen to, but there was never any hint of dirt on corruption charges on him like the others.
Most of the names there were criminals (Burke the only one that saw time for it) and Harris much like Vardaker is an out and out traitor to his own people.

Hell if Kenny was around today he would be cancelled for his comments about black people and his having the Wolfe Tones play at the Christmas bash.

Now that doesn't mean I will ever forgive him for appointing that bint Zappone or giving a certain group ethnic status.

Actually I would give anything for the old school FGers who had some conservative bones in their bodies unlike the current shower.
Hell it is now so bad I would even welcome back some of the old FFers.

Anything but the current shower of servile sycophantic ar**licking traiterous c n t s.

At least we had politicians before who put up some sort of fight for something like getting opt-out using protocol 21 of Lisbon treaty.
The current shower over the last few years have failed to use that unlike the Danes.

As bad as the past fookers were they always figured out that ultimately they had to do something for the people otherwise they faced losing their cushy number. And yes I know it was in their own interests first and foremost.

The current shower look like they couldn't give a sh** about us at all.

The list does not only include indictible offences, crimes against the Irish people are also included, such as the introduction of Property Tax and the attempted enrichment of his Corporate buddies by privatising and taxing water resources, not to mention his infamous "not another cent" rant. A snivelling sleeven who doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as decent folk.

In the words of Enda Kenny himself – ‘This is a vampire tax. It drives a stake through the heart of home ownership and sucks the lifeblood of people who want to own their own home and better their position.

[jmayo]

The list does not only include indictible offences, crimes against the Irish people are also included, such as the introduction of Property Tax and the attempted enrichment of his Corporate buddies by privatising and taxing water resources, not to mention his infamous "not another cent" rant. A snivelling sleeven who doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as decent folk.

In the words of Enda Kenny himself – ‘This is a vampire tax. It drives a stake through the heart of home ownership and sucks the lifeblood of people who want to own their own home and better their position.

I would never agree with privatising water no more than we should privatise the electricity network (not generation mind), our rail network or ever have privitised our telecoms network.
They are all state wide infrastructures and should never be in the hands of private entities.
Just look at mess Thatchers fooking privatisation made to Britain's infrastructure and it's services.

But that doesn't mean we should not have to pay for their use.
And yes I do agree with paying for water.
As someone who pays the same amount of income tax and indirect taxes as someone in a city, town or village, I still have to pay for my own well, my water pump, my septic tank.
And trust me sinking a fooking well, replacing pumps and filters or emptying septic tank is not cheap.

So fook that pay for your bloody water and your fooking shyte.

You means test it and you give a free allowance per person.
It is this anti charges shytology that really means me, you, someone in an apartment in Tallaght or someone in a small house terrace in Finglas is subsidising someone on Shrewsbury road with a fooking swimming pool.

And I too agree with property taxes, every fooking country has them and we had their equivalent until that gobshyte Lynch got rid of them as election buying stunt.
And in every other country in the world so called left wing parties agreed with it.
Why because it brought in money for local councils and it was a kind of asset tax.

Only in Ireland do we have the left chomping at the bit and effectively subsidising the rich.

I don't ever remember a comment about a vampire tax.

[jmayo]

I'm a firm believer that Ken O'Flynn has the makings to lead a new opposition party, I'd love to see it because we desperately need it

wholeheartedly agree.

He is much better than Collins or O'Donghue.
And what is worse Collins came across as halfwit with his ideas on the party backing the totally wrong presidential candidate just to possibility get a seat in by election.
And not going to mention how they fooked up with that ex RTE hack when he got to Brussels and joined with the anti agriculture brigade.

[marhay70]

I would never agree with privatising water no more than we should privatise the electricity network (not generation mind), our rail network or ever have privitised our telecoms network.
They are all state wide infrastructures and should never be in the hands of private entities.
Just look at mess Thatchers fooking privatisation made to Britain's infrastructure and it's services.

But that doesn't mean we should not have to pay for their use.
And yes I do agree with paying for water.
As someone who pays the same amount of income tax and indirect taxes as someone in a city, town or village, I still have to pay for my own well, my water pump, my septic tank.
And trust me sinking a fooking well, replacing pumps and filters or emptying septic tank is not cheap.

So fook that pay for your bloody water and your fooking shyte.

You means test it and you give a free allowance per person.
It is this anti charges shytology that really means me, you, someone in an apartment in Tallaght or someone in a small house terrace in Finglas is subsidising someone on Shrewsbury road with a fooking swimming pool.

And I too agree with property taxes, every fooking country has them and we had their equivalent until that gobshyte Lynch got rid of them as election buying stunt.
And in every other country in the world so called left wing parties agreed with it.
Why because it brought in money for local councils and it was a kind of asset tax.

Only in Ireland do we have the left chomping at the bit and effectively subsidising the rich.

I don't ever remember a comment about a vampire tax.

Nothing to do with the yeas or nays of paying for water, it's to whom we were to pay it and the complete and utter absence of any transparency in the matter.
The vampire quote is from your own Connaught Tribune, maybe it doesn't circulate as far as Mayo, Google it.

[Dubit10]

Talk now of the population of the Republic reaching 7.5 million in next 40 years: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/09 ... n-ireland/

Given that we'll have ongoing immigration from mainly younger people, unlike the report, I expect the birth rates to be much higher in these cohorts. It's how you maximise your benefits and get established.

I've been banned from the other site for pointing this out but the future is inevitable - we will see a complete makeover of the population of Ireland in the next generation or two. An exponential growth among those of non national origins.

And when the history of this is written, the blame will firmly affix to the governments of the last decade who have not only done nothing to stem this tide but who have knocked down the bulwarks and let the flows in. Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael and The Greens, The Greens - how ironic the name.

This has to stop, it really does. We can't sustain this madness. How stupid can people be to keep voting for this and then phone in the Jooooooe Duffy show to complain about lack of housing. We are honestly are a very low IQ nation.

[Headshot]

This has to stop, it really does. We can't sustain this madness. How stupid can people be to keep voting for this and then phone in the Jooooooe Duffy show to complain about lack of housing. We are honestly are a very low IQ nation.

I fully agree mate but we desperately need an opposition party that sees this and outside independents we dont.

Myself I voted for independents in the last general election but they'll never be a Dáil full of independents unfortunately

We're really stuck between a rock and a hard place

I suppose the only thing we can keep doing is protesting, keep voicing our concerns at polls etc BUT i'm convinced a new party will eventually come which will tackle this issue but my worry is will it be to late?

[Dubit10]

I fully agree mate but we desperately need an opposition party that sees this and outside independents we dont.

Myself I voted for independents in the last general election but they'll never be a Dáil full of independents unfortunately

We're really stuck between a rock and a hard place

I suppose the only thing we can keep doing is protesting, keep voicing our concerns at polls etc BUT i'm convinced a new party will eventually come which will tackle this issue but my worry is will it be to late?

I fear you are wrong about that Headshot. I think our political system and media are too closely intertwined to ever let a conservative or right leaning political organisation to ever take hold here. We've been brow beaten for decades now and the vast majority just go along to get along.

[Headshot]

I fear you are wrong about that Headshot. I think our political system and media are too closely intertwined to ever let a conservative or right leaning political organisation to ever take hold here. We've been brow beaten for decades now and the vast majority just go along to get along.

I see changes in the wind.

Years ago, would we have seen protests across the country voicing concerns about immigration? Now we just need that charismatic leader to lead it.

Immigration is also showing up as a top concern in the polls. People are starting to connect the dots between immigration and added pressure on housing.

I know it’s a slow burner, but I have faith things are going to change.

[Dubit10]

I see changes in the wind.

Years ago, would we have seen protests across the country voicing concerns about immigration? Now we just need that charismatic leader to lead it.

Immigration is also showing up as a top concern in the polls. People are starting to connect the dots between immigration and added pressure on housing.

I know it’s a slow burner, but I have faith things are going to change.

Yeah i will be very happy to be wrong on this one.

[jmayo]

Nothing to do with the yeas or nays of paying for water, it's to whom we were to pay it and the complete and utter absence of any transparency in the matter.
The vampire quote is from your own Connaught Tribune, maybe it doesn't circulate as far as Mayo, Google it.

Oh I agree about the likes of Irish Water.

It boils my **** that some clowns got a bonus just for setting up the bloody thing.

We would be more Western People than the Tribune.
Well years ago anyway.

[jmayo]

I fear you are wrong about that Headshot. I think our political system and media are too closely intertwined to ever let a conservative or right leaning political organisation to ever take hold here. We've been brow beaten for decades now and the vast majority just go along to get along.

The first thing that has to happen is media.
Forget about printed media, that is finished.
Gript fills a bit of a gap, but there are a lot of very religious types linked to it and some Putin fanboys hovering around it for it to really gain traction.

If only someone with some money could buy a radio station.
I am thinking of the likes of Ganley.
The reason I say someone with money is that advertisers will initially avoid it like the plague if it is seen or labelled as anyway far right.
And it would, or in hope I say will, need lots of money if it discusses what is really going on.
It will need money sunk into it for a period of time to keep it on air.

Imagine a radio station like Newstalk actually broadcasting what the fook is really going on.
Also a campaign to ostracise and boycott any and all involved in the asylum industry needs to gain traction.

Highlight the banties of this country.
Gript's Matt Treacy is doing great job on the money trail at the moment, but that needs to be broadcast throughout the country.

Then for election success the independents of like minds need to amalgamate or get off the stage.
They don't have to agree on everything just enough things.

The last time they just sucked votes off each other.

And for fooks sake people need to stay away from religion, stay away from abortion, stay away from same sex marriage.
Those ships have sailed.
The vast vast majority of people do not want to go back to them.

I think the only current party that can be starting point is Independent Ireland.
It already has grassroots following in some counties.

Aontu was founded and is being led by ex Shinner who left them because of religious slant on abortion.
Also he damn well was pro loose immigration not so long ago.
So in my opinion the jury is still out on Toibin.

I would however welcome likes of Paul Lawless into a new party with open arms.
He has been breath of fresh air in the Dail.

I would have rated Carol Nolan highly until she threw her lot in with Lowry.
That was not good.
She used to do a lot to highlight the schenanagains but now forget it.

[NewBroom]

And yes I do agree with paying for water.
As someone who pays the same amount of income tax and indirect taxes as someone in a city, town or village, I still have to pay for my own well, my water pump, my septic tank. And trust me sinking a fooking well, replacing pumps and filters or emptying septic tank is not cheap.
So fook that pay for your bloody water and your fooking shyte.

It's not really relevant to this thread but I agree, paying a charge for water used and sewage discharged is one of very few tax proposals that actually made sense and would have been of benefit to the public that get public water and sewage services. It is/ was a no brainer and was royally 'f****' up by Phil Hogan and FG. What should have a been a simple cost/ benefit to explain to people, they managed to turn into a whole story about 'jobs for the boys' and 'profiteering'. Utter incompetence - how did that chap get to be an EU commissioner?

[jmayo]

I see changes in the wind.

Years ago, would we have seen protests across the country voicing concerns about immigration? Now we just need that charismatic leader to lead it.

Immigration is also showing up as a top concern in the polls. People are starting to connect the dots between immigration and added pressure on housing.

I know it’s a slow burner, but I have faith things are going to change.

The thing that will bring it all to a head is economics.
It is always about the money.

A major economic downturn and it will be major if it involves worldwide recession or retrenchment of some of those MNCs will cause major problems in this country.
And the fookers who couldn't care less at the moment will when their very well paid jobs with multinationals are gone, when they have to watch loved ones emigrate (or they may not be anywhere to emigrate to) or suddenly are in a dole queue with Mohammed, Omar and the rest of the freeloaders.

A major recession in Europe will see hard right wing politicians rise to power, much like it did in 1930s.
And as construction bubble burst proved little old Ireland is not immune to international trends.

[NattyO]

The Irish Times earning their keep last night with another editorial straight out of the government playbook.

“The Irish Times view on population growth: Ireland will continue to need migrants“

https://removepaywalls.com/https://www. ... -migrants/

“The current housing strategy runs until 2030 and the longer term national development framework extends to 2040. Metrolink, the ambitious rail project for Dublin, is due to commence operation in the first half of the 2030s.
The successful implementation of these plans requires continued inward migration”

“Managing this in a society already bursting at the seams will not be easy, but tighter restrictions on inward migration across the board would limit growth.
There is clearly a balance to be struck. And a key challenge for the Government and its successors is to underline the importance of inward migration to Ireland’s economic and social development, while working to deal with the consequences of a rising population.”

In other words - the natives are getting restless, but we must bombard them with propaganda until they believe the invasion is for their own good.

[Dubit10]

Was in Dublin City centre this morning to do some errands and im telling people right now if not for the landmarks it could have been Lagos, Bangladesh or Aleppo. Up by Parnell street i spotted one man face down on the ground out of his mind on drugs and a woman defecating against a shop front all in the space of 20 yards. Groups of middle eastern men drinking (at 11:30am) outside the garden of remembrance and a man shouting at the top of his lungs about whatever sky fairy he followed on Talbot street.

Gardai seem to be holding the line up towards Grafton Street as it seemed half normal but there is still the odd straggler getting through their defensive formations bringing down the tone of that area also. How long before that's over run now also?

[Headshot]

Anyone see the protests in London, bloody hell those are some numbers

110,000 attending and I suspect that's a conservative number