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Thin Skinned Politicians

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Truthslayer
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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The overwhelming majority of people are against this vile abuse. The way to express displeasure with politicians is via the ballot box, not by threatening to murder their family. That’s an attempt to undermine democracy and the institutions of the State, and should result in long prison sentences.

I genuinely thing the internet has completely destroyed some people. The permanently online and permanently outraged. They spend all day in their depressing and unhappy online echo chambers complaining about a world that they simply don’t have the tools to deal with. What’s also interesting is that these people are hugely emotional and hysterical - things they are so quick to accuse others of being. Pale, male and stale Graham Linehan sorts.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Listen to yourself. "Should result in long prison sentences". Welcome to fascism, whereby expressions of disdain towards the incumbent government are construed as threats against the state. You should be ashamed of yourself with such commentary, why not audition for suppressor of unpalatable criticisms. Dissolution of democracy at the behest of indiscriminate jail terms. If only the Stasi were still operational, your ideological home.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Berties_Horse wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 10:42 pm Listen to yourself. "Should result in long prison sentences". Welcome to fascism, whereby expressions of disdain towards the incumbent government are construed as threats against the state. You should be ashamed of yourself with such commentary, why not audition for suppressor of unpalatable criticisms. Dissolution of democracy at the behest of indiscriminate jail terms. If only the Stasi were still operational, your ideological home.
Just ignore the nonsense and don’t reward it with attention
NewBroom
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Bubblypop wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 6:57 pm And how do you consider it thin skinned when someone's children are threatened?
If you want to betaken seriously with this POV, then please provide a verified detailed account of this reported threat - both the exact text and the context in which it was expressed.

Until you can do this, it's meaningless projection.

I have already stated above that I don't regard Simon Harris as thin skinned - in fact he has a big thick brass neck. But he happens recently to be using this issue to shoehorn in a discussion about the negative effects as he seems to perceive it of social media discourse.

And the likes of yourself are wittingly or unwittingly assisting that agenda towards censorship.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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@Bubblypop and @Truthslayer, a topical and potentially very interesting discussion on what's fair game or not for politicians is getting derailed here.

Simon Harris said his family and his children were threatened online and as far as I'm aware this is the extent of the media reporting eg:



As far as I am aware the exact nature of the alleged threats have not been published, either in trad media or screenshotted round the likes of Twitter etc.

Thus accusing posters here of defending child rapists and murderers is a bit of a stretch to say the least - (a) there is no evidence that was the nature of the threat to Harris & family and (b) nobody here has been defending child rapists and murderers anyway.

Please cut that out unless have you something credible either (a) to show that somebody online threatened to rape or murder Harris' children or (b) somebody here defended the public's right to call for politicians children to be raped and murdered.

Otherwise you're just being a dick. Please remember not to be a dick.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Going by the comments here, in other fora, and on social media, a directive has gone out to the NGO network to push the “raping children” narrative to suppress any questioning around this. I’ve now seen at least two other instances of “I saw it so it’s true” by those pushing this narrative, but no sign of any evidence of it - surprising that none of these people thought to screenshot it.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Oh so it appears that some posters have to prove their posts, while others do not. Is there any clarification as to what topics need to be clarified or who must clarify their posts?
I'm not sure why the exact nature of the threats to children have to be proved, surely everyone feels that threatening the children of politicians is completely wrong and unacceptable?
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Bubblypop wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:56 pm Oh so it appears that some posters have to prove their posts, while others do not. Is there any clarification as to what topics need to be clarified or who must clarify their posts?
I'm not sure why the exact nature of the threats to children have to be proved, surely everyone feels that threatening the children of politicians is completely wrong and unacceptable?
You made a very outlandish claim, a claim you tried to use to shame and silence other posters. When I asked you for evidence of this claim, you couldn’t give any (other than the rather hilarious response that you had seen it). If you had any credibility whatsoever, you would now withdraw that claim.
Care to do so?
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Bubblypop wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 12:56 pm Oh so it appears that some posters have to prove their posts, while others do not. Is there any clarification as to what topics need to be clarified or who must clarify their posts?
I'm not sure why the exact nature of the threats to children have to be proved, surely everyone feels that threatening the children of politicians is completely wrong and unacceptable?
If you really need clarification, this is offending post:
Bubblypop wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2025 12:11 pm Oh right, your life experience allows you to threaten to rape and murder children does it?
Not sure at all why you are arguing this, noone agrees that it is ok or understandable
Now, if I missed any posts on here in which somebody argued it's ok to threaten to rape and murder and children, apologies, please report the post to me so I can action it.

I haven't seen any posts hence the polite mod intervention: please remember not to be a dick.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Guburnor wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 1:04 pm If you really need clarification, this is offending post:



Now, if I missed any posts on here in which somebody argued it's ok to threaten to rape and murder and children, apologies, please report the post to me so I can action it.

I haven't seen any posts hence the polite mod intervention: please remember not to be a dick.
The poster claimed that due to my lack of life experience (lol) I don't understand someone threatening harm to innocent children, which is why I replied the way I did. As clearly the poster seemed to suggest that their life experience being so much more wide then my own, allows them to understand someone threatening children.
I never meant that the particular poster would harm children, merely that they appear to find it understandable, while I don't believe anyone could find threatening children under stable.
But, I'll refrain from mentioning the actual type of harm in future.
(Not that it should matter what type of harm!)
Truthslayer
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Any abuse of politicians and their family is completely unacceptable. Social media threats, picketing outside their house, abusing them on the streets. We are lucky to have the access we do to our politicians and we can’t allow freaks, oddballs, weirdos and violent thugs to change that. It’s domestic terrorism tbh. Name, shame and jail them. Look into where they are getting their funding if it’s a group involved. Time to take the gloves off with these traitors. A small cohort don’t get to play outside the democratic process.

When these lads are named and shamed then tend to be pathetic failures in life. Middle-aged lads who live with their parents etc
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Harris pulled this sort of stunt last year, too, or at least it was pulled on his behalf. I can't remember the circumstances now, but it was probably another example of his incompetence and unsuitability for office. I take it with a pinch of salt.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Truthslayer wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 1:20 pm Any abuse of politicians and their family is completely unacceptable. Social media threats, picketing outside their house, abusing them on the streets. We are lucky to have the access we do to our politicians and we can’t allow freaks, oddballs, weirdos and violent thugs to change that. It’s domestic terrorism tbh. Name, shame and jail them. Look into where they are getting their funding if it’s a group involved. Time to take the gloves off with these traitors. A small cohort don’t get to play outside the democratic process.

When these lads are named and shamed then tend to be pathetic failures in life. Middle-aged lads who live with their parents etc
It was a woman in her 30s who was arrested for the threats. No mention if she lived with her parents etc.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0902/15314 ... ts-arrest/
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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marhay70 wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 1:46 pm Harris pulled this sort of stunt last year, too, or at least it was pulled on his behalf. I can't remember the circumstances now, but it was probably another example of his incompetence and unsuitability for office. I take it with a pinch of salt.
It seems you need proof to post such things. :D
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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schmittel wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 2:10 pm It was a woman in her 30s who was arrested for the threats. No mention if she lived with her parents etc.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0902/15314 ... ts-arrest/
We don't know who she is, and we probably will never know. Same as last time, when someone had been identified but we never found out who they were either. All just a deflection from his scandalous record in political office. It'll all blow over until the next time he needs a scapegoat.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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marhay70 wrote: Thu Sep 04, 2025 1:46 pm Harris pulled this sort of stunt last year, too, or at least it was pulled on his behalf. I can't remember the circumstances now, but it was probably another example of his incompetence and unsuitability for office. I take it with a pinch of salt.
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/g ... 37937.html

Yes he has form in these matters, that was August 2024.

Funnily I recall very few similar heavily publicised threats made to other senior ministers.

What happens when you cry wolf too often??
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Mr.Harris back in the news again on the same theme. I suppose it's a handy way to keep himself up in the sub heads in the silly season, for out of view then out of mind etc. LOOK at me. Can't be having Martin and FF taking up too much airtime with their electoral jousting in the party.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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NewBroom wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 10:05 am Mr.Harris back in the news again on the same theme. I suppose it's a handy way to keep himself up in the sub heads in the silly season, for out of view then out of mind etc. LOOK at me. Can't be having Martin and FF taking up too much airtime with their electoral jousting in the party.
Armed Gardaí with dogs this time, must be like Stalag Luft 4 out there. Is the local plod not capable of guarding bricks and mortar, as apparently, he's not even there?
Probably gone back home to Mammy.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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There appeared to be a lot of doubt about the veracity of the threats last time, exacerbated by the fact that the mystery woman involved was not named, and was released without charge, and also by the fact that the threats were being bigged up by the usual suspects (rape of children etc.)
So now we have Threats 2: Bigger and Uncut.
All the triumvirate of government spin, the IT, RTE, and the Journal, going big on the terror of it all, complete with pictures of Simon looking suitably morose, and pearl-clutching about the dangers to democracy. Soon, this will morph into a well-funded "groundswell of support" for whatever draconian legislation FFFG have in mind this week. Hate speech, or bad thoughts, or some other Orwellian nonsense.

Like I've said before, either one believes that is is purely coincidental that every time a FG minister or leader gets themselves in hot water with public opinion, that well-publicised threats follow, or one has a mind of their own.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/09 ... stes-home/
Gardaí are investigating several phone calls to garda stations relating to threats against the home of Tánaiste Simon Harris and his family.
It is understood the calls, which included bomb threats, were made on Telegram, which offers security provisions and encryption, enabling callers to disguise their identity.
Lies. Didn't happen, you cannot call a Garda station from Telegram, nor can you call anyone without them already being your contact!!
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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PogMoThoin22 wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 1:06 pm https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/09 ... stes-home/





Lies. Didn't happen, you cannot call a Garda station from Telegram, nor can you call anyone without them already being your contact!!
Weren’t the handily-timed threats to another FG’er come from a prisoner? Not saying it was the case, but if I wanted to be threatened in order to deflect criticism, one of the best people to get to do it would be a prisoner - a few quid to the right person, a few easily-traced calls later, and I’ve all the sympathy I need to overwhelm the news of whatever screw-up I’ve done. The prisoner won’t care - some lad that’s already there, will be back there in any case, and will just get a few months onto his sentence, reduced for good behaviour. Everybody wins.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Ah poor Simon.. he had to 'dig pretty deep' in order to go to Mullingar today. Doesn't anyone feel a teensy weensy (in Pascal lingo) bit sorry for him?
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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NewBroom wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 8:03 pm Ah poor Simon.. he had to 'dig pretty deep' in order to go to Mullingar today. Doesn't anyone feel a teensy weensy (in Pascal lingo) bit sorry for him?
In a word, no. And you had to mention Donohoe, another one closer to the dirt than a snake's belly.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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Anyone hear Simon's interview this morning, he was nearly in tears at the thought of turning up for work.
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Re: Thin Skinned Politicians

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PogMoThoin22 wrote: Mon Sep 08, 2025 1:06 pm https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/09 ... stes-home/





Lies. Didn't happen, you cannot call a Garda station from Telegram, nor can you call anyone without them already being your contact!!
Ehh if there were bomb threats surely his road in Greystones should have local residents removed?
Or is it ok for the neighbours to be blown up?

He is a weasel.
Sorry that is insulting to weasels.
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