Anyone still glued to this?

[Setanta]

So in your mind what would Ireland outside the EU look like

I said disentangling.... We're better off alone,rather be conscripted by the left to die for the EU,once the triple lock is gone,they'll have lit the torch paper by ripping up parts of Lisbon treaty,we will then have every right to push for disengagement and dismantling rest of European treaties voted for by public here


It's long since time the screw was turned on this blind acceptance of the EU while blindly ignoring how bad and hypocritical most of the EU policies are....this blind leftist propaganda that the EU can't be critiqued and we've to accept it and can't ever change our relationship over treaties is at last coming to an end with the removal of the triple lock

[Return of the Mac]

I said disentangling.... We're better off alone,rather be conscripted by the left to die for the EU,once the triple lock is gone,they'll have lit the torch paper by ripping up parts of Lisbon treaty,we will then have every right to push for disengagement and dismantling rest of European treaties voted for by public here


It's long since time the screw was turned on this blind acceptance of the EU while blindly ignoring how bad and hypocritical most of the EU policies are....this blind leftist propaganda that the EU can't be critiqued and we've to accept it and can't ever change our relationship over treaties is at last coming to an end with the removal of the triple lock

So you want us to remain in the EU but rip up the treaties which underpin us being a member. OK. Keep dreaming

[Setanta]

So you want us to remain in the EU but rip up the treaties which underpin us being a member. OK. Keep dreaming

Meh....I mean the establishment here,are actively ripping up parts of treaties that people voted for already.....so it's open ground for anyone else to do so now,and they haven't a leg to stand on anymore

The left have handed nationlists their greatest victory in generations,the campaign to disentangle our septic one way, toxic relationship with the EU likely begins before Easter,long overdue after what was done to Ireland during the bailouts


Edit: seen Von Der lyon is actively approving countries breaching budget deficit rules, another treaty pushed through by an unquestioning media here.....if they can do it, any and all treaties become open ground,rules apply to all,or none

[Return of the Mac]

Meh....I mean the establishment here,are actively ripping up parts of treaties that people voted for already.....so it's open ground for anyone else to do so now,and they haven't a leg to stand on anymore

The left have handed nationlists their greatest victory in generations,the campaign to disentangle our septic one way, toxic relationship with the EU likely begins before Easter,long overdue after what was done to Ireland during the bailouts


Edit: seen Von Der lyon is actively approving countries breaching budget deficit rules, another treaty pushed through by an unquestioning media here.....if they can do it, any and all treaties become open ground,rules apply to all,or none

So do you want us in or out of the EU

[Setanta]

So do you want us in or out of the EU

I think I'm open to the marketplace of ideas and see what treaties it suits us to disentangle to avoid anymore bailing out banks,destroying society,facing down leftists,or sending our people off to die/kill for the EU


If we can do away with the treble lock after people voting for it,we are free to elect further governments,over time,to begin the process of dismantling our entanglement in what has gotten out of control,and strayed well away from what people voted for.....this blind,unquestioning devotion the left and media here have fostered towards EU needs to be faced down,it's been a disaster

[knownunknown]

Good news, Zelenskyy changing his tune from last week. A framework for peace is finally in place. My own mentioned of war of attrition or endless war in this thread dozens of times finally confirmed by Zelenskyy himself.

[Setanta]

Good news, Zelenskyy changing his tune from last week. A framework for peace is finally in place. My own mentioned of war of attrition or endless war in this thread dozens of times finally confirmed by Zelenskyy himself.

Regarding the agreement on minerals and security, Ukraine is ready to sign it in any time and in any convenient format. We see this agreement as a step toward greater security and solid security guarantees

Can't see this ending well,they've decided to sell their countries future to serve US masters without any guarantee....21st century imperialism in all it's glory


They should remember the free staters sold there grubby treaty signing away the north as a stepping stone to full independence and simply refused to step any further along the track, leaving part of our country occupied to this day


Millions of Ukrainians dead,even more scattered likely to never return,their future signed over to US masters,for a deal worth less than what was reputedly on offer 3 days into the war,before Boris Johnson convinced em to reject it,a microcosm of everything wrong with modern leftism

[knownunknown]

Can't see this ending well,they've decided to sell their countries future to serve US masters without any guarantee....21st century imperialism in all it's glory


They should remember the free staters sold there grubby treaty signing away the north as a stepping stone to full independence and simply refused to step any further along the track, leaving part of our country occupied to this day


Millions of Ukrainians dead,even more scattered likely to never return,their future signed over to US masters,for a deal worth less than what was reputedly on offer 3 days into the war,before Boris Johnson convinced em to reject it,a microcosm of everything wrong with modern leftism

They signed over their resources(that the u.s. will receive and pay for) for the protection of their country. We sign over ours for a few extra shillings.

[Setanta]

They signed over their resources(that the u.s. will receive and pay for) for the protection of their country. We sign over ours for a few extra shillings.

The US has not agreed thus far to protect their country....such a magnitude of a decision should be put to a referendum,they are essentially selling their countries future, with no guarantees either

Quite the feat really by America,put them in such a position theyve to choose between serving them or Russia,who are racist against Ukrainian to such an extent they have degoratory term for Ukrainians.....this is no win for Ukraine,a bad day all round for euro leftists,Irish establishment and dronies, imperialism and trumpism won out in the end,

while European food and electricity prices ramped out of control after the gas pipe line bombing by the yanks (admittedly this was bidens doing),making everyone here functionally poorer....a fairly damning indictment of the EU as an institution

[knownunknown]

The US has not agreed thus far to protect their country....such a magnitude of a decision should be put to a referendum,they are essentially selling their countries future, with no guarantees either

They now have a vested interest in Ukraine, if Russia takes over they get nothing. Look how far the U.S. went to protect the Saudis for all this time.

[knownunknown]

Why have they changed the mechanism around the triple lock? My guess is to send troops to Ukraine.



https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/604 ... he%20State.

[Setanta]

Why have they changed the mechanism around the triple lock? My guess is to send troops to Ukraine.



https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/604 ... he%20State.

They changed this because they dispise our people....6 counties occupied and they'll do nothing to end it....but pack Irish soldiers off to be slaughtered for NATO whose members feck each over all the time


It's very interesting,that people voted for the triple lock as part of Lisbon treaty,but the public were banned from voting on ending it...

An important pint to note,on efforts to further enmesh Ireland into EU,we can now elect governments to walk away from what public previously voted for,and have an actual proper examination of what we want from Europe,if it requires Irish troops to kill and die for it....time to make this an electoral issue from here forward and begin dismantling the cozy consensus on direction of the eu

There's a glimmer of light in the absolute shambles the left have embroiled us into,from the ashes of our neutrality,we can break away and water down our enmeshment into Europe

[Setanta]

Russian troops trekked 12 km,hunched over through tunnels to launch an attack in Kursk.... promptly walked into an ambush

The audacity of it,was incredible.....it damn near trapped 10,000 Ukrainian troops in Kursk,which should be adbandoned by now,it's wrong for Russia to invade Ukraine,it's wrong for Ukraine to invade parts of russia

[knownunknown]

It's very interesting,that people voted for the triple lock as part of Lisbon treaty,but the public were banned from voting on ending it...

An important pint to note,on efforts to further enmesh Ireland into EU,we can now elect governments to walk away from what public previously voted for,and have an actual proper examination of what we want from Europe,if it requires Irish troops to kill and die for it....time to make this an electoral issue from here forward and begin dismantling the cozy consensus on direction of the eu

That is interesting, I didn’t know about and just had to research. It was long enshrined in law before those treaties, but we were told that once these treaties were signed it wouldn’t be able to be changed. Wait until we send troops to the wrong place for the wrong reason, perhaps the Middle East, then there will truly be a backlash.

[Setanta]

That is interesting, I didn’t know about and just had to research. It was long enshrined in law before those treaties, but we were told that once these treaties were signed it wouldn’t be able to be changed. Wait until we send troops to the wrong place for the wrong reason, perhaps the Middle East, then there will truly be a backlash.

Further to this,the left and media here,to underscore how much they dispise the general public here,push a line that the UN security council have a veto over Irish peacekeeping,when this law was changed in 2016, arguably shouldn't have been allowed without a referendum IMO.....


but this lie is pushed unquestioned by the media to force public to comply with doing away with neutrality,it's now more than ever we need to prepare to water down our enmeshment into Europe,it's been a disaster,going from a trading/economic/free movement block to now ending Irish neutrality as Germany rearms itself


I do better out of EU membership than 99% of the population,I have no interest in dying for it,and certainly don't think anyone else should either....it's simply not worth it

[PureIsle]

Russian troops trekked 12 km,hunched over through tunnels to launch an attack in Kursk.... promptly walked into an ambush

The audacity of it,was incredible.....it damn near trapped 10,000 Ukrainian troops in Kursk,which should be adbandoned by now,it's wrong for Russia to invade Ukraine,it's wrong for Ukraine to invade parts of russia

An ambush implies that the opposing forces were expecting them.
If that was the case they could have destroyed them during the 4 days they spent in the pipe.

So I am not inclined to believe that in the least.
From what I read the 'pipe excursion' was very successful and damn near split the UA line, to such an extent that one part of it is now in serious danger of being stuck with no way out.

[Setanta]

https://www.rte.ie/news/ukraine/2025/04 ... ine-talks/


Interesting development,can't see the US walking away from Ukraine,as they are serving their interests to an astonishing degree degrading the Russian army and resources,while costing yanks little or nothing

Unless trump will change military doctrine of the US and keep the aging weaponry on its asset sheet,to prop up it's economy,the flow of weapons will continue to the Ukraine IMHO

[Setanta]

Been confirmed today,the son of the deputy director of the CIA,died 12 months ago on active service for the Russian army


Whole thing is sketch as fúck

[Setanta]

Ukraine claiming victory in the battle for Pokrovsk,after a 7 month slog,the same day Russia announces a ceasefire

[Setanta]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/uk ... 025-05-03/

If war hinges on whoever develops new technology faster/better than others, particularly wars of attrition

Have Ukraine steeped ahead of Russia??...with it's home produced long range drones, regularly hitting 650km plus inside Russia,most notably destroying the fibre optic cable plant recently and now shooting down a fighter jet at start of an summer offensive......the demise of the fibre optic drones,has stalled Russia on the front line,and they are less willing for slog fears and bloodbaths along front now aswell ......this war is peetering out

[Setanta]

2 years ago today,bakhmut fell, costing circa 100K casualties between both sides

In that time Russia has moved 8 miles further west

[PureIsle]

It seems to me that Ru is preparing for something rather large on the battlefield during Summer, regardless what happens during negotiations.
Ru is building forces through voluntary signups in numbers that exceed losses at the front.
Makes me wonder if they will consider conscription ... but maybe they do not need to.

Meanwhile Ukr. is 'capturing' individuals on the street to fill the ranks, but is unable to compensate for the rate of losses in trained personnel.

If things get much worse ofr Ukr then maybe they can expect Ru in Kyiv before end of year.

[Setanta]

It seems to me that Ru is preparing for something rather large on the battlefield during Summer, regardless what happens during negotiations.
Ru is building forces through voluntary signups in numbers that exceed losses at the front.
Makes me wonder if they will consider conscription ... but maybe they do not need to.

Meanwhile Ukr. is 'capturing' individuals on the street to fill the ranks, but is unable to compensate for the rate of losses in trained personnel.

If things get much worse ofr Ukr then maybe they can expect Ru in Kyiv before end of year.

I think Russia are in bother for front line activities,after losing the fibre optic factory for drones,it's end of summer it's scheduled to be online

They're in "peace" negotiations,and clearly stalling,to buy time and see what'll happen in US as regards tariffs/trade,and political fallout there.....Ukraine hasn't capacity to dislodge them,find it hard to see any large scale collapse along the front,to extent Russia will occupy Kiev before end of the year either though

[Setanta]

Russia making a massive smash and grab in sumy.....summer offensive under way

[PureIsle]

IMO, nothing less than complete capitulation can save Ukraine now.
A drone swarm over Kursk while Putin was in a chopper there appears to be the last straw.

Without very serious intervention by other countries Ukr is going down.
All it takes is a few break-throughs along the line for Ru forces to collapse the defensive line, and there will be mayhem.

It appears that some of the NATO countries are willing to put themselves into this conflict.
Things could go very seriously wrong, not only for them but for all of Europe, if that happens.

The Sumy region was being used to hit Belgorod regularly, mostly civilians suffering from those, and also Sumy was from where the Ukr forces went into Kursk, have since being expelled, and tried and failed multiple times to redo their successful incursion of Kursk.
It is not surprising that Ru decided to do something about that situation.

Ru has also upped pressure on other locations along the line, thus preventing Ukr from having the option to move forces from one area to one under danger of collapse.

Since this conflict began Ru has been consistent in its aims and has not deviated from them.
Regardless what BS comes out of Ukr or NATO, Ru has its aims.

Thus the "peace talks" are not really genuine because Ru is not prepared to back off from its aims.
There is no compromise possible from the Ru side, in my estimation.
The same seems to be true for the Ukr side. They refused to deal when they had the chance.

Thus, this conflict will be decided on the battlefield -- with the involvement of NATO troops or not. I hope not as that would see this become a Europe-wide war, with the possibility (likelyhood) of it going nuclear.

None of us will survive a nuclear war in Europe.