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Why?

Who decided that our elected leaders should swan off at the beck of a lobbying group?

Why did one international NGO - the WEF - get so powerful that all the world leaders and richest people flock like lemmings to the annual gathering?
The World Economic Forum (WEF) is an international non-governmental and lobbying organisation based in Cologny, canton of Geneva, Switzerland. It was founded on 24 January 1971 by German engineer and economist Klaus Schwab.
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The meetings have been going on since 1988.

The fancy people get to chat and schmooze and dine and chortle and decide what to do with the herds of useless eaters, IE us.

It's like an enormous pool party for powerful people.

And like eegits we clap them on in fascination, and the media report on their hummings and hawing's as if they are distilled drops of wisdom.

It's weird because so many ordinary people talk like we are evolving towards empowering socialism-type ways of societal organisation, with diversity, inclusion, equity, universality, globalism, etc etc and yet here we have this lavish techno-feudalist extravaganza every year where the lord's and some lucky ladies gather in opulence to discuss what to do for the next year with the revolting peasants.

How do they get away with it without us either laughing into their fat florid faces or putting their heads on pikes?
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There is no progress without violence.
Protesting and giving out doesn't achieve anything.
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Mirabeau wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:23 am There is no progress without violence.
Protesting and giving out doesn't achieve anything.
I honestly think withering disdain is not a bad alternative.

Recently I've been reading a lot of Irish history from the 17th and 18th centuries and there was an almost incomprehensible amount of savage violence in this country. Often from Irish people to Irish people. The most wickedly inventive types of sadism. It still took another 150 - 200 years before the people got what they wanted. Violence worked to some extent at the time in France and America, but it doesn't universally work, and likely only works when the rational foundation for liberty has been properly established in people's mindsets first.

I think we should laugh at and disdain these pompous useless egotistical fools. At least as a start.
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Mirabeau wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:23 am There is no progress without violence.
Protesting and giving out doesn't achieve anything.
Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.” A quote attributed to Winston Churchill but apparently not the first person to use it. This, despite being a monarchist like W.C, I wholeheartedly agree with. :)
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isha wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:58 am Why?

Who decided that our elected leaders should swan off at the beck of a lobbying group?

Why did one international NGO - the WEF - get so powerful that all the world leaders and richest people flock like lemmings to the annual gathering?
Thank you! I've asked myself the same question so many times. It seems bizarre that Klaus Schwab, an unelected megalomaniac, wields such influence.

His theories represent one rather dark 'solution' to the issues that face the human race. His narcissistic, exceptionalist, and feudalistic worldview is a threat to anyone that has not achieved at least multimillionaire status.
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isha wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:39 am I honestly think withering disdain is not a bad alternative.

Recently I've been reading a lot of Irish history from the 17th and 18th centuries and there was an almost incomprehensible amount of savage violence in this country. Often from Irish people to Irish people. The most wickedly inventive types of sadism. It still took another 150 - 200 years before the people got what they wanted. Violence worked to some extent at the time in France and America, but it doesn't universally work, and likely only works when the rational foundation for liberty has been properly established in people's mindsets first.

I think we should laugh at and disdain these pompous useless egotistical fools. At least as a start.
Thats letting them off the hook.
If I was a billionaire I wouldn't give a ha'penny jizz about what some ham-and-egger thinks of me. I could buy and sell them.
Which is what they do.
As regards the Irish on Irish violence, I'd like for you to explain that one a bit more.
Also, let's be clear on our liberty - it was fought for with violence and the threat of violence; paid for with ditches of dead bodies.
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isha wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:39 am I honestly think withering disdain is not a bad alternative.

Recently I've been reading a lot of Irish history from the 17th and 18th centuries and there was an almost incomprehensible amount of savage violence in this country. Often from Irish people to Irish people. The most wickedly inventive types of sadism. It still took another 150 - 200 years before the people got what they wanted. Violence worked to some extent at the time in France and America, but it doesn't universally work, and likely only works when the rational foundation for liberty has been properly established in people's mindsets first.

I think we should laugh at and disdain these pompous useless egotistical fools. At least as a start.
Though if them fellows back in 1920s hadn't taken up arms,we'd be still run by that shitshow over in Westminster.
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Democracy was allowed to the peasants to give us the impression that we actually have power to chose those that govern us. In reality we are given a choice between hitler and stalin, and we feel happy that we got to chose.
Peasants are happy, and the lords can go on living in the lap of luxury.
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kadman wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:14 am Democracy was allowed to the peasants to give us the impression that we actually have power to chose those that govern us. In reality we are given a choice between hitler and stalin, and we feel happy that we got to chose.
Peasants are happy, and the lords can go on living in the lap of luxury.
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Davos nice town, expensive but soul less is what I think of Davos. I was there years ago.
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Hairy-Joe wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:43 am Davos nice town, expensive but soul less is what I think of Davos. I was there years ago.
Are you a lord then? :lol:
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Mirabeau wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:48 am
As regards the Irish on Irish violence, I'd like for you to explain that one a bit more.
It's tangential but in the mid 1600s the standing army of the monarchy in Ireland became majority Catholic. That representation went up and down but there were large numbers of Catholics in the army fighting rebels for the next hundreds of years. The new Irish Militia formed in 1793 had many Catholics including some almost exclusively Catholic regiments. Membership of the often extremely cruel Yeomanry of 1796 also included Catholics. It's my understanding that for pay people could be induced to fight their own. Someone else may know better, but my recent reading leads me to think this.
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kadman wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 11:50 am Are you a lord then? :lol:
Ah far from.

There was one time I drove up the Birj Al Arab hotel in Dubai. That's the luxury 7 star hotel shaped like a sail. The doorman took one look at me and the hire car and sent me packing......
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isha wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:24 pm It's tangential but in the mid 1600s the standing army of the monarchy in Ireland became majority Catholic. That representation went up and down but there were large numbers of Catholics in the army fighting rebels for the next hundreds of years. The new Irish Militia formed in 1793 had many Catholics including some almost exclusively Catholic regiments. Membership of the often extremely cruel Yeomanry of 1796 also included Catholics. It's my understanding that for pay people could be induced to fight their own. Someone else may know better, but my recent reading leads me to think this.
Nice bit of airbrushed history there.
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Mirabeau wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:07 pm Nice bit of airbrushed history there.
I have been researching fairly broadly for a purpose and am using historical documents in the public domain. I'm not making it up. For example on sites like celt.ucc.ie or other academic sites. You can search around yourself.
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isha wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:12 pm I have been researching fairly broadly for a purpose and am using historical documents in the public domain. I'm not making it up. For example on sites like celt.ucc.ie or other academic sites. You can search around yourself.
Maybe search those sites again for yourself.
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the Swiss army is supporting the civilian authorities of the canton of Graubünden in performing security tasks for the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF).

The assistance service of a maximum of 5000 members of the army was approved by parliament for the annual meetings of the WEF 2022 to 2024, as the Defense Department (VBS) writes on its website.
3000 guests of a NGO can commandeer 5000 members of the Swiss army?

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Sure the Swiss army would have little enough to do.
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Mirabeau wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:23 am There is no progress without violence.
Protesting and giving out doesn't achieve anything.
Maybe Robespierre would agree(and eventually everyone turned on him) but what about people like Rosa Parks, Gandhi and MLK. I don’t think progress requires violence but it does require someone to stand up and say, “no, none of this shit anymore” and take it on the chin like what Enoch Burke is doing.
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At least someone is benefitting from davos…. https://nypost.com/2023/01/18/prostitut ... 0-a-night/
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World economy in tatters for the serfs, but the lords still get their perks,
Prostitutes charge Davos attendees $2,500 a night as sex work demand booms
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kadman wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:09 pm Prostitutes charge Davos attendees $2,500 a night as sex work demand booms
Just a thought... Can we train up an army of undercover sex workers to stab all of these f**kers with a hat pin or something? A well organised mission could take out a significant portion the male attendees. 🤷
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Cyclepath wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 10:21 am Just a thought... Can we train up an army of undercover sex workers to stab all of these f**kers with a hat pin or something? A well organised mission could take out a significant portion the male attendees. 🤷
A camera might be just as potent :lol:
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knownunknown wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 3:13 pm A camera might be just as potent :lol:
You might be right... Jeff Bezos lost half his fortune over a dick pic! 😂
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knownunknown wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:08 am Maybe Robespierre would agree(and eventually everyone turned on him) but what about people like Rosa Parks, Gandhi and MLK. I don’t think progress requires violence but it does require someone to stand up and say, “no, none of this shit anymore” and take it on the chin like what Enoch Burke is doing.
Ol cheaty MLK was shot just in time. Probably better to make a martyr out of him than having him answer for the rape involvement.
Enoch is gimp. Another backwards inbred misappropriating the message of Jesus.
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